The Bulwark Podcast S2 Ep1007: Jeffrey Goldberg and Peter Wehner: What's Going on with Our National Security?
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Mar 25, 2025 
In this engaging discussion, Jeffrey Goldberg, Editor-in-chief of The Atlantic, and Peter Wehner, a senior fellow at the Trinity Forum, dive into alarming revelations about national security breaches from Trump's Cabinet. They explore how sensitive military plans were mishandled and examine the corrosive effects of revenge politics on the Republican Party. The conversation also touches on the disturbing dehumanization of immigrants and the urgency of addressing humanitarian crises exacerbated by political actions. A must-listen for anyone interested in the state of America's moral compass.
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Accidental War Plans Leak
- Jeffrey Goldberg received war plans via Signal from Mike Waltz, Trump's National Security Advisor.
- Initially, he dismissed it as fake but realized its seriousness when details of imminent attacks appeared.
White House Denial
- The White House denied the leak included classified information or war plans, contradicting Goldberg's account.
- Goldberg argues the information, detailing imminent attacks, was highly sensitive, regardless of classification.
Goldberg's Refusal to Publish
- Despite calls to publish the texts, Goldberg refuses, prioritizing national security over exposing the administration.
- He acknowledges the irony of Trump's team, known for criticizing unauthorized leaks, committing such a blunder.
