The Late Show Pod Show with Stephen Colbert

NJ Gov.-Elect Mikie Sherrill (Extended)

Dec 6, 2025
Mikie Sherrill, former U.S. Representative, and Navy helicopter pilot, shares insights as New Jersey's governor-elect. She highlights how New Jersey sends $70B more to the federal government each year, giving her leverage in negotiations. Sherrill also delves into balancing cooperation with the Trump administration while opposing harmful actions. On a lighter note, she recounts the hilarious story of delivering her second child in a taxi, where her husband's two-word contribution became legendary!
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INSIGHT

State Fiscal Leverage Over Federal Government

  • New Jersey sends about $70 billion more to the federal government than it receives back each year.
  • Mikie Sherrill sees that fiscal imbalance as leverage to push federal performance or reclaim funds for state programs.
INSIGHT

Dual Role Of State Leadership

  • Governors can both push for federal cooperation and publicly oppose harmful policies.
  • Sherrill frames state leadership as simultaneously collaborative and confrontational when federal performance falters.
ADVICE

Use Legal Pressure To Protect State Funds

  • Use legal challenges and withholding to compel federal agencies to run mandated programs.
  • Mikie Sherrill intends to take the federal government to court and claw back or withhold funds if programs fail.
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