UFOlogy's DARTH VADER Changes His Tune About CRASHED SAUCERS - Guest : John B. Alexander
Dec 19, 2023
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Guest John B. Alexander, veteran intelligence officer, shares his evolved view on crashed saucers. They discuss challenges faced by Congress, secrecy in UFO investigations, and difficulties for airline pilots reporting UFO sightings. The inaccuracies in the 'Corso Conundrum' are also addressed. The podcast explores the reluctance of defense contractors to disclose recovered UFO technology and the path forward for UFO study.
Secrecy surrounding UFOs hampers transparency, collaboration, and scientific progress in understanding and studying UFO phenomena.
Recent push for UFO disclosure legislation signifies a shift in attitudes and the need for collaboration among academia, science, and government.
Over-classification and concealment of UFO information erode public trust, fuel skepticism, and hinder public discourse, scientific progress, and national security.
Deep dives
The Threat of Secrecy
Secrecy surrounding UFOs, especially when it comes to crash retrievals and reverse engineering, poses significant dangers. It hinders transparency, trust in the government, and the progress of scientific understanding. Over-classification and the reluctance to share data with academia and scientists hampers collaboration and limits our ability to study and comprehend UFO phenomena. The lack of a proper reporting channel also affects aviation safety, as pilots often face reprisals for reporting UFO sightings. National security is also at stake, as other nations may gain technological advancements by studying UFOs, potentially surpassing our capabilities. The secrecy surrounding UFOs has far-reaching implications that extend beyond the direct threat of mysterious objects in the sky.
The Need for Transparency
The recent push for UFO disclosure legislation, despite being gutted at the last minute, demonstrates the growing recognition of the importance of transparency. The UFO topic has gained bipartisan support in Congress, signaling a significant sea change in the playing field. However, the political nature of the decision-making process and the belief that UFOs are not a voting issue can easily lead to compromises and shelving of related legislation. The challenge lies in bringing together the best and brightest minds from academia, science, and government to collaborate, share data, and effectively study and address the UFO phenomenon. Transparency is crucial for not only public understanding and engagement, but also for national security and aviation safety.
The Impact on Public Trust
The devastating psychological impact of secrecy surrounding UFOs cannot be overlooked. Overly classifying and concealing information only erodes public trust in the government, especially when there is widespread belief in UFOs and mounting evidence from eyewitnesses, radar systems, and credible testimonies. It creates a perception that the government is hiding important information that could potentially have significant implications for society. The lack of transparency fuels skepticism and conspiracy theories, and undermines credibility across various domains. Openness, collaboration, and shared data can help restore public trust, facilitate scientific progress, and foster a well-informed public discourse on UFOs.
Lessons from the Past
Past efforts to bring UFO disclosure to Congress, such as the failed attempts in the 1990s, serve as reminders of the challenges and resistance faced by those advocating for transparency. The encounters between UFO researchers, military personnel, and Congress highlight the need for a significant shift in attitudes towards the UFO phenomenon. The current momentum, with increased sightings, whistleblowers, and public interest, must be leveraged to ensure that this time, meaningful progress is made. The issues of national security, aviation safety, and the broader impact on society require a concerted effort to break down barriers, dispel myths, and promote open dialogue and collaboration among researchers, scientists, policymakers, and the public.
UFOs as a Broader Phenomenon
The podcast episode explores UFOs as a larger phenomenon, touching on the physical nature of UFOs as tangible craft, the complexity of the phenomena involved, and the challenge of studying and defining UFOs. The speaker highlights that UFOs are not limited to just physical crafts, but also encompass the issue of consciousness and potentially even the nature of the universe itself. The speaker suggests that consciousness may be a key aspect of understanding UFOs and urges for a broader approach and integration of knowledge in studying and addressing the UFO phenomenon.
Verification of Corso's Background
The podcast episode discusses the meeting with Phil Corso, who claimed to have been involved in a program at the Pentagon, and the subsequent efforts to verify his background. The speaker acknowledges that while some aspects of Corso's claims were accurate, there were also inaccuracies observed in the information he provided. The speaker reflects on the credibility and consistency of Corso's claims, as well as the challenges in verifying his history and the discrepancies found in the records. Despite the inconsistencies, the speaker acknowledges that some of the advanced technology Corso described may have influenced subsequent technological developments by corporations and labs, even though the specific technology mentioned by Corso is not currently considered valid.
Long before the existence of AAWSAP or AATIP, there was another UFO investigation within the Dept. of Defense named ATP [the Advanced Theoretical Physics program], headed by a veteran intelligence officer named Col. John Alexander. Alexander and colleagues searched for hidden evidence of UFO crash retrieval/reverse engineering programs but didn't find any. For years afterward, Alexander was skeptical whenever "crashed saucers" were mentioned, but what about now?
His detractors refer to Col. Alexander as "Dr. Death”. He is purported to have psychic powers and mind control abilities, is often associated with the shadowy "Aviary" group of UFO insiders, and is viewed with fear and suspicion whenever he attends a UFO conference, on a par with the Men in Black or Darth Vader. Alexander chuckles about how he is perceived by ufologists. He led special forces teams into combat during the Vietnam conflict, was involved with the US Army's remote viewing program, became the head of Non-Lethal Weapons research at Los Alamos lab, and in the 90's, hooked up with NIDS, the National Institute for Discovery Science which was created and funded by Las Vegas billionaire Robert Bigelow. Alexander was with Bigelow when the businessman purchased what came to be known as Skinwalker Ranch.
In this episode, Dr. Alexander reveals to George and Jeremy how his view of the “crashed saucers” story has evolved, shares his impressions from the recent Sol conference, discusses previous attempts to achieve UFO transparency through congressional action, and gives his assessment of fellow intelligence officer Col. Phillip Corso.
