Joe Krebs speaks with Ken Schwaber at the birthplace of Scrum in Burlington, MA about the origins of Scrum. If you are interested in how everything began, and want to learn about the years leading up to the Agile Manifesto, you might like this episode. Ken also talks about his relationship with Jeff Sutherland, how they crossed paths and what made the connection to create Scrum. This episode originally aired 2012.