Conservatives from around the country flocked to Arizona on Sunday to memorialize the activist Charlie Kirk. The service included leaders from the highest levels of the U.S. government, including Vice President JD Vance and President Trump.

Two clear strands emerged during the memorial addresses: a message of Christian unity, and a vow to fight political enemies on the left.

Robert Draper, who covers domestic politics for The Times, explains how the collision of those two messages makes this a crucial moment for the MAGA movement.

Guest: Robert Draper, a Washington, D.C.-based journalist for The New York Times, who writes about domestic politics.

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Thousands flocked to Phoenix for Charlie Kirk’s memorial service.
President Trump remembered Mr. Kirk as a martyr while attacking political opponents.

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