Today’s interview is with Sue Duris, Principal Consultant of M4 Communications, a global CX consulting firm. Sue joins me today to talk about customer understanding, internal customers, being curious enough to care and why we can't be digital-first and that we have to be customer first.

This interview follows on from my recent interview – Tool time, task time and how ChatGPT will change everything in customer support – Interview with Des Traynor of Intercom – and is number 459 in the series of interviews with authors and business leaders that are doing great things, providing valuable insights, helping businesses innovate and delivering great service and experience to both their customers and their employees.

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