Thomas is joined by the founder of the Ergos Institute of Somatic Education and the developer of Somatic Experiencing, Peter A. Levine, Ph.D. They discuss how trauma affects our physical bodies, and how the bottom-up approach of Somatic Experiencing helps to heal trauma by addressing the body first.

Peter shares fascinating anecdotes from his own personal and professional history and explains how trauma is transmitted through generations, along with important information about survival and spirituality.

He and Thomas focus on connection as a crucial, if not THE most crucial element of trauma healing, and how grieving and witnessing pain together can bridge massive cultural divides.

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Peter A Levine, Ph.D., is the developer of Somatic Experiencing®, a naturalistic and neurobiological approach to healing trauma. He holds doctorates in both Biophysics and Psychology. He is the Founder and President of the Ergos Institute for Somatic Education and the Founder and Advisor for Somatic Experiencing International. He is the author of several best-selling books on trauma, including Waking the Tiger, Healing Trauma. He has received Lifetime Achievement awards from Psychotherapy Networker and from the US Association for Body-Oriented Psychotherapy.

Peter's book, An Autobiography of Trauma: A Healing Journey is available at: Ergos Institute, Barnes & Noble, Amazon, Amazon UK, Inner Traditions, Books A Million, and Bookshop.org

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👉 https://www.somaticexperiencing.com/

Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.

In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

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