Face-Off: The U.S. vs China

The New Cold Wars: A Conversation with David Sanger

Oct 1, 2024
David Sanger, a national security correspondent for The New York Times and author of 'New Cold Wars,' dives deep into the evolving tensions between the U.S., China, and Russia. He expresses concerns about the burgeoning alliance between China and Russia and its implications for global stability. The discussion touches on nuclear threats and espionage, the imbalance in student exchanges, and the strategic significance of the AUKUS pact. Sanger offers insights into the complexities of U.S.-China relations and the looming dangers ahead.
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ANECDOTE

Murdoch Fundraiser Nuclear Tension

  • In October 2022, during the war in Ukraine, U.S. intelligence intercepted Russian plans to possibly use tactical nuclear weapons.
  • Biden publicly warned guests about the nuclear risks, creating a tense atmosphere at a fundraiser party.
INSIGHT

Misjudging Post-Cold War World

  • The West misjudged China and Russia's trajectories after the Cold War, expecting integration into a Western system.
  • China and Russia instead pursued repression and territorial ambitions, complicating global security.
INSIGHT

China's Nuclear Stance Uncertain

  • China publicly opposed nuclear weapon use in Ukraine in 2022 but may not do so today given changing strategic interests.
  • The possibility of China influencing Russia to refrain from nuclear weapon use remains uncertain.
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