A conversation between Shefa's founder and CEO Zac Kamenetz and Bob Otis. What does it mean to regard plants as sacred, or even as a “sacrament,”, and to create community with entheogenic plants as a necessary means for helping facilitate connection to sacred Divine presence? We welcome Bob “Otis” Stanley, Senior Pastor of the Sacred Garden Community Church, to speak about his path toward sacred plant use and his vision for helping root entheogenic spiritual communities. Bob has over 40 years of engagement with family, traditional and Western teachers guide Bob’s work with natural Sacraments, supported by degrees in psychology, sociology and Divinity (MA, University Chicago). Bob was founding Chairperson for Decriminalize Nature Oakland, is senior Pastor for Sacred Garden Community Church, co-founder of Sacred Plant Alliance, and Board Chair for Alma Institute.

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Youtube Video Our intro music is an excerpt of the song ⁠Ein Od⁠ by ⁠Yosef Goldman⁠.