Kelly sits down with Lisa Gevelber, Global Vice President and Managing Director at Google, to explore how creativity and making can happen anywhere - even inside giant corporations. Lisa shares how she went from putting herself through college to creating Google Career Certificates, a program that's now graduated nearly 1.5 million people into good-paying jobs without requiring a four-year degree. They dig into the importance of listening for human need when creating something new, the art of receiving feedback, and how AI might be the great equalizer that lets everyone become a maker. Lisa's story reminds us that some of the most meaningful making happens when you spot a problem that affects millions of people and refuse to accept that that's "just how things are."

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Deep Dive with Lisa Gevelber on Making