Talking Kotlin

Creator of Spring: No desire to write Java at All

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Mar 27, 2025
Rod Johnson, the creator of the Spring Framework and founder of SpringSource, shares his intriguing journey back to the JVM and his experience with Kotlin. He recounts how Spring was born over two decades ago, emphasizing community collaboration in open-source. Rod finds Kotlin's modern features and readability a refreshing change from Java, highlighting its seamless integration with Spring. The discussions touch on Kotlin's evolving type system and its potential future, making it a fascinating listen for anyone in software development.
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ANECDOTE

Spring's Accidental Birth

  • Rod Johnson's book, Expert One-on-One J2EE Design and Development, inadvertently birthed the Spring Framework.
  • Readers inquired about the code's license, sparking its transformation into an open-source project.
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Spring's Consistency

  • Spring's consistent architectural style is attributed to its origins in Rod Johnson's book.
  • This consistency makes learning Spring easier despite its complexity.
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Sustainable Open Source

  • Open-source projects need robust business models to thrive long-term.
  • Rod Johnson emphasizes the importance of economic viability alongside innovation in open source.
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