What defines art? What makes one an artist? What does art teach us—and why does it matter?

To help us make sense of a world elusive to many, today I convene with the singular Heidi Zuckerman.

A woman I’ve known for over 30 years, Heidi has devoted her entire professional career to understanding art, the people who make art, and why we should care.

Heidi currently serves as CEO and Director of the Orange County Museum of Art, where she is overseeing construction of a spectacular new building designed by legendary architect Thom Mayne of Morphosis, scheduled to open in October 2022.

In addition, she hosts Conversations About Art (a podcast on which I was privileged to be a guest) and is the author of the Conversations with Artists book series.

This is a conversation about art.

In addition to tracking Heidi’s career arc, we discuss what defines art, what makes for great art, why we should care about art, and why artists matter.

We discuss the barriers to accessing art. How art can and should be democratized. And the role of art and artists in this era of offense and content overload.

On a personal level, this one is very meaningful given my long history with Heidi.

I really enjoyed this conversation—I hope you learn as much as I did.

Watch: YouTube.

Read: Show notes

Peace + Plants,

Rich

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