Ep 185 Reversing Rheumatoid Arthritis-The Plants for Joints Trial

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In the first episode of a two-part series, the Plants for Joints trial is explored, focusing on whether a plant-based diet can alleviate arthritis symptoms. A study participant shares his positive experience with dietary changes on his rheumatoid arthritis. Dr. Dirkjan Van Schaardenburg, a seasoned rheumatologist, discusses how lifestyle factors like diet, sleep, and exercise play a crucial role in managing arthritis. Promising results from the Plants for Joints trial show that a whole food plant-based diet, alongside proper lifestyle changes, can significantly reduce disease activity markers, comparable to modern drug treatments. The conversation also covers the metabolic mechanisms behind diet and arthritis, along with historical studies that laid the groundwork for current research.

00:00 Introduction to the Plants for Joints Trial
00:41 Personal Testimony: Life Before and After the Trial
01:16 Challenges and Commitment to a Plant-Based Diet
01:56 Remarkable Improvements and Quality of Life
02:43 Recommendations for Others with Rheumatoid Arthritis
03:21 Interview with Dr. Dirkjan Van Schaardenburg
06:25 Understanding Metabolic Factors and Inflammation
10:04 Historical Studies on Diet and Arthritis
13:29 Details of the Plants for Joints Trial
18:25 Results and Impact of the Trial
26:40 Compliance and Lifestyle Changes
29:52 Conclusion and Next Episode Preview

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