Alison, Caroline, and Danielle delve into Amanda Vanstone's experiences as a minister, highlighting her commitment to understanding through inquiry and accountability. They explore quirky topics like the generational curse of ALL CAPS thank you notes and the simplistic wisdom of children's questions. The conversation touches on the often-overlooked role of women in history, the complex dynamics between ministers and public servants, and the challenges of effectively communicating policy. Humor and real-world anecdotes spice up their insightful discussion on governance.
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Vanstone's Ministerial Approach
Amanda Vanstone believed ministers must ask questions until they fully understand their portfolios.
She emphasized taking full responsibility for decisions made under their name.
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Merit Over Political Alignment
Vanstone opposed sacking public servants just for political alignment.
She believed in giving officials a fair chance based on competence, not party.
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Public Servant Across Parties
Jeremy Hayward won trust across Thatcher, Blair, and Cameron governments.
Gordon Brown left an all-caps note calling him the best advisor he'd ever had.
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Pamela Churchill Harriman's Astonishing Life of Seduction, Intrigue and Power
Sonia Purnell
In a wide ranging discussion, Alison, Caroline and Danielle come together to discuss the gems from the Amanda Vanstone interview, which examined how power, responsibility and decision-making played out at the top of government during her two decades as a federal minister.
Vanstone's approach to being a minister - asking questions until understanding, visiting programs unannounced, and taking full responsibility for decisions - offers deep insights.
We also canvas some less expected topics, including:
Is it a boomer quality to use ALL CAPS in inconveniently located thank you notes?
Was Amanda Vanstone falling in to the classic 'good girl' trope of delivering savings, rather than posturing about plans to deliver savings?
On why Australia struggles with a conversation about trade offs, see Judith Brett on How a Benthamite Political Culture Shaped Australia's Electoral System, on The Joe Walker Podcast
Would we star in a documentary on tricky policy making? Or do we already have the essence of one in Utopia?
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