Nicholas Pelham, The Economist's Middle East correspondent, discusses Turkey's resurgence as a regional power following the Arab Spring, detailing its military interventions and historical ambitions. Kenley Salmon, Africa correspondent, provides a critical analysis of Tanzania's newly awarded middle-income status, questioning the validity of its economic data amid persistent poverty. The conversation also touches on the controversy surrounding the Cocoa Mat Hotel in Athens, where modern design clashes with historical preservation, sparking local outrage.