The New Yorker Radio Hour

How the “Dangerous Gimmick” of the Two-State Solution Ended in Disaster

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Sep 12, 2025
Hussein Agha, a veteran negotiator for Palestine, and Robert Malley, a former U.S. diplomat, discuss the disillusionment surrounding the two-state solution in their new book, "Tomorrow Is Yesterday." They argue that decades of negotiation have left Israelis and Palestinians worse off, revealing the emotional and historical complexities that were overlooked. The conversation critiques past attempts at peace, examines Iran's influence, and emphasizes the urgent need for a new approach to resolve entrenched tensions.
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ANECDOTE

A Veteran Negotiator's Despair

  • Hussein Agha recounts feeling despair after October 7 and that decades of work felt meaningless.
  • He describes being 'sucked back in' repeatedly despite wanting to quit the conflict work.
INSIGHT

Rational Fixes Overlook Deep Emotions

  • Western-style technical fixes ignored emotion and history in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
  • Hussein Agha argues that rational, map-based solutions lacked resonance and thus failed.
INSIGHT

Two-State Became A Dangerous Cover

  • Robert Malley calls the two-state framework a 'dangerous gimmick' that froze out alternatives.
  • He shows it sheltered unilateral Israeli moves and discouraged Palestinian accountability actions.
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