Gavi Kutliroff is a writer, poet and musician and a firm believer in the necessity of an artistic Jewish renaissance. After studying East Asian Studies and Psychology at Brandeis University, he served as a madrich at Yeshivat Orayta in Jerusalem. Gavi is pioneering the comparative study of Chinese and Jewish Mysticism, particularly between the Daoist (Zhuangzi) and Hasidic traditions (Rabbi Nachman). He also has a strong affinity for aquariums. Forget what you know about knowing as we explore, the Limits of Rationality, Rationalism and Mysticism, Identity, Self-Alienation and Dancing around the Infinite Nothingness. “Knowledge in limitless. The human capacity for knowledge is limited. To use what is limited to pursue what is limitless is dangerous.”

Timestamps: 02:45 Conversation begins

04:29 Scepticism of Rationalism

08:50 Gavi’s Story - Who is Gavi? - Identity Crisis

16:51 Mysticism and Rationalism

19:03 Scepticism and Subjectivity, Information vs Wisdom

21:31 Gavi’s Religious Identity

29:33 Finding Jewish Mysticism

31:45 Self-Alienation in the Universality of Mysticism

41:03 Difference in Similarity, Diversity in Unity

44:14 Difference in Similarity in Self-identity and God’s identity

56:25 Gavi’s thesis: A Comparison of Judaism and Daoism, Rabbi Nachman and Zhuangzi

1:09:18 Playing with Reality

1:13:00 Capital N Nothingness

1:21:05 A Chinese Nothing and a Jewish Nothing

1:26:09 Messianic Paradigms

1:28:25 What Gavi’s up to

1:31:52 Closing words

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