The Changing Face of Psychedelics: Exploring Their Real Potential and Risks with Shaahin Cheyene

Feb 21, 2025

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Psychedelics have come a long way—from underground parties to legit medicine—and Shaahin Cheyene has been in the thick of it for decades. He created Herbal Ecstasy inthe ‘90s, built a billion-dollar business, and rubbed shoulders with legends like Terence McKenna. But beyond the hype and controversy, what’s the real potential of these substances?

Shaahin and I get into the evolution of psychedelics, the fine line between reverence and misuse, and the disadvantages and advantages surrounding the psychedelic renaissance. Shaahin tells us fascinating stories of his encounter with anuncontacted tribe and his experience taking a psychoactive substance with them along with his unexpected Ayahuasca journey. We also dig into the ethical side of whether everyone should be taking these substances.

So, whether you're curious, skeptical, or already deep in this world, this episode will challenge the way you think about psychedelics, consciousness, and what it really means to explore the unknown.

Key Timestamps

[00:00:00] Introduction.

[00:02:43] Psychedelics as medicine and sacrament

[00:05:41] Introduction of Salvia in the US and how it’s illegal now.

[00:07:01] The evolution of psychedelics.

[00:12:40] Ethics and morals of using substances without therapy.

[00:14:56] Experiencing psychoactive substances and Ayahuasca in a tribal setting.

[00:21:10] Psychedelic renaissance and the issue of moderation.

[00:23:43] Healing through psychedelics and the importance of guides.

[00:27:30] Spiritual experiences and how it’s very personal

[00:31:54] Spiritual pursuits and humor(irreverent reverence)

[00:36:13] Paradox of psychedelic medicines.