

What did Russia get out of Victory Day?
May 9, 2025
Juliet Linley, a journalist and former Vatican correspondent, joins to discuss the intricacies of Moscow's Victory Day parade and its evolving significance in the context of modern geopolitics. She explores how Ukraine's historical perspective on the event has shifted dramatically. The conversation also touches on the upcoming challenges for the new Pope, emphasizing his unique cultural connections and potential impacts on the Catholic Church. Humor is intertwined as they dissect governance absurdities and the art sector's competitive landscape.
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Ukraine's Changing Victory Day
- Julia Lasica recalls childhood confusion over WWII memorial dates in Ukraine being 1941-1945.
- She explains Ukraine's decommunisation changed Victory Day's meaning to honor victims, not glorify war.
Victory Day's Political Shift
- Alexis Self notes that Russia and the US/UK see WWII as the 'good war' with clear moral victory.
- She highlights Russia's Victory Day became more triumphant under Brezhnev during the Cold War as a political tool.
Putin’s Victory Day Gains and Losses
- Julia Lasica describes Putin's Victory Day gaining business deals, especially with Xi Jinping of China.
- She notes important absences like Azerbaijan's president canceling due to cooled relations after a tragic incident.