Cheeky Pint Cognition CEO Scott Wu on acquiring Windsurf, AI replacing engineers, and the Moneyball-ification of everything
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Aug 27, 2025 
Scott Wu, Cofounder and CEO of Cognition, dives into the cutting-edge world of AI with a focus on Devin, the first AI software engineer. He shares his journey from math competitions to tech entrepreneurship, discussing the transformative 'Moneyball-ification' of various sectors. The conversation highlights the implications of AI in coding, the landmark acquisition of Windsurf, and Wu's bold assertion that we may already possess AGI. He also examines trust in digital interactions and the evolving landscape of AI mergers.
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Devin Works Like A Coworker
- Cognition built Devin as an async AI software engineer that you can call from Slack, Linear, Jira, or an IDE.
- Scott describes Devin as a coworker you delegate tickets to instead of an autocomplete in your editor.
Split Decisions From Execution
- Essential complexity is the decision-making about what software should do and accidental complexity is routine implementation work.
- Scott argues agents let humans stay in the loop for decisions while AI handles execution asynchronously.
Limit Permissions And Use PRs
- Avoid giving agents direct production DB access and rely on existing safeguards like PRs and CI for safety.
- Use agents to create pull requests so humans can review and catch mistakes before merging.