In this episode, hosts Rob Ocel and Tracy Lee are joined by Chuck Carpenter and Robbie Wagner from the Whiskey Web and Whatnot podcast. They discuss the future of web development, highlighting the industry's shift towards performance-focused development over flashy animations. They explore the longevity of jQuery, the use cases of frameworks like AngularJS and Ember, and the potential for combining components of Ember with Astro. The hosts also touch on the challenges of convincing stakeholders about performance and the need for developers to prioritize foundational web skills. Throughout, Robbie and Chuck share insights from The Whiskey Web and Whatnot podcast, celebrating its 100th episode. Sponsored by This Dot Labs.