VINCE How To Deprogram A Liberal (w/ Matt Van Swol) | Episode 115
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Sep 1, 2025 Join Erin Derham, a documentary filmmaker turned conservative, and Matt Van Swol, a growth marketer, as they share their riveting transformation from liberalism sparked by a severe storm. They delve into frustrations with mainstream media and how personal crisis redefined their beliefs. The couple discusses family dynamics amidst political changes and emphasizes the importance of kindness and open dialogue to bridge ideological divides. Their journey highlights how shared experiences can foster understanding, even in a polarized world.
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Ignored During The Flood
- Erin and Matt were aggressive liberals who believed mainstream outlets until Hurricane Helene exposed a media blind spot. Conservative journalists and outlets helped them when CNN and others ignored their crisis, triggering doubt and change.
Posting The Ground Reality
- Matt used X (Twitter) to document the disaster because legacy outlets did not report it. His posts gained millions of views but still produced no mainstream media coverage.
Delivering RVs To Cold Families
- They transported RVs and supplies to people sleeping in sheds and saw a mismatch between dollars claimed and help received. Matt described driving an RV while seeing push alerts about foreign aid spending.