This is what Sam and Anne made of Keir Starmer’s speech to the Labour conference in Liverpool.
It was an hour that was often pitched at Middle England voters tempted by Reform – but also seemed to go down well with Labour’s soft left.
The PM doubled down on his stance that some of Nigel Farage’s policies are racist.
How will all that go down outside the conference bubble?
In the Politico pub, Sam and Anne also debrief on what the PM was saying about working people – which, they reckon, is sounding a bit Bridget Phillipson.
Sam and Anne will debrief Kemi Badenoch’s Conservative speech next Wednesday afternoon.
