The Circuit of Success Podcast with Brett Gilliland Success from the Green: PGA Pro Tips with Kevin Dougherty
Embark on a journey to success from the lush greens of golf with our special guest, Kevin Dougherty. In this episode, Kevin imparts his invaluable tips and experiences, revealing the secrets that have led to triumph on the golf course. From building a strong support system to refining daily fundamentals, join us as we explore the green pathways to success in both golf and life.
**Key Highlights:**
1. Green Glory: Kevin’s Proven Path to Success – Uncover the strategies behind Kevin’s victories on the green, from a steadfast support system to unwavering self-belief.
2. Nutrition for Champions: Fueling the Golfing Journey – Delve into Kevin’s commitment to high-energy nutrition and a well-balanced diet for peak physical and mental performance.
3. Swing to Win: Kevin’s Tips for Aspiring Golfers- Receive expert advice for amateur golfers, focusing on daily fundamentals and strategic gameplay to elevate your skills.
4. Putting Precision: Kevin’s Green Mastery Unveiled – Explore Kevin’s daily putting drill using two dimes and a black dot, a simple yet impactful practice for precision on the greens.
5. Mental Mastership: Unlocking the Golfer’s Mindset – Gain insights into the mental resilience and mindfulness practices that contribute to Kevin’s success in golf and beyond.
Join us as we uncover the journey to success from the green, drawing inspiration and tips from the seasoned pro, Kevin Dougherty. Tune in for a blend of golfing wisdom and life lessons, and stay connected for more episodes featuring extraordinary individuals in the realms of sports and personal development.
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I’m your host, Brett Gilliland. Today, I’ve got Kevin Doughtery
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with me. Kevin, how you doing, my man?
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I’m doing great. How about you? I’m doing
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great. I’m here in Dallas, Texas. Right?
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Yes, sir. It’s where home is, and finally
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getting to spend some time at home. I
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mean, Kevin after the season ended,
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we’ve been on the road everywhere. So it’s
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definitely really nice just to be home and
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in place.
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Nice night at home. Isn’t it? Yeah, as
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you’ll you’ll find, because I think you got
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a little one. So as those kids get
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bigger, even if you’re, if you are at
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home, sometimes you’re not at home. So,
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well, listen, man. You are Kevin Doughtery. You
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are a PGA tour,
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player. You know, you’re not just a PGA
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tour cardholder. You are PGA tour player, my
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man. And so, you know, we go way
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back two years ago. We got them elevated
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together. You look like a golfer. I think
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had my sticks with me. I had the
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privilege of playing Muirfield village. You were, at
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a golf tournament, I think, at the Corn
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Ferry and made for the qualifier, if I’m
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not mistaken. And We struck up a conversation.
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We ended up being next door neighbors. We
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started phoning each other on Instagram, and now
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here we are at a podcast. You just
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qualified for the PGA tour.
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But before we dive into any of that
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stuff, man, I wanna start for our listeners,
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about a massive lesson that I’ve learned, through
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this whole thing. So I’m gonna brag on
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Kevin for a minute. I, reached out to
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Kevin. Kevin was very nice, gave us of
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his time. We did a podcast. Well,
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Brett had a computer that was a little
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bit older. And,
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my,
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technology, let’s say, wasn’t great. And it happened
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on a couple guest, and I didn’t think
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much of it. I thought it was just
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a rainy day. It’s bad wifi, but it
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really was bad on our time.
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And I got off. I was so embarrassed
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I’m like, my god. I hope I can
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idiot. You know, I’ve had all these guests
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on. And now here, Kevin has to give
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us his time. He thinks I’m this terrible
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person. And and in our minds, we build
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these fears. And the people listen to this,
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I’m sorry to do all the talking, Kevin,
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but we put it in our minds. It
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never blows up to our magnitude that we
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believe it to be. Right? A hundred percent.
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And
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I said, you know what, man, I gotta
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reach out to this guy on Instagram and
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apologize
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and, you know, tell him I was terrible
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as a host and
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kinda eat crow, and then humbly asked him
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if he’d even be open to doing it
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again. And here’s what I learned, ladies and
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gentlemen. He said, yes.
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Let’s do it. And I’m like, you know,
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in life, we put people on pedestals. Here’s
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a PGA tour player. He’s gonna say, no.
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What an idiot Brett is? And all those
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fears never came true. So, Kevin, you are
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the man. I appreciate it. Sorry for the
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long intro, but I think it says a
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lot about you and your character and who
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you are.
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Yeah. No. Definitely. Mean,
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just because of what I do for a
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living doesn’t change who I am as a
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person. And I’m technically, I’m at fault as
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well. I mean, I completely
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I completely whipped our makeup interview
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We’re back from Kevin on Monday,
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and we had a schedule for Tuesday. And
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about 05:00 on Tuesday, I was going through
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my calendar. I’m like,
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oh, no. Oh, no.
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Hey. I thought it was the next day.
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And So that’s my fault, but now I’m
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glad that we can kind of make it
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work and just kind of both being easygoing.
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I think that’s pretty important these days to
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feel. As if a lot of people have
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kind of lost that easygoing,
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just kind of roll with the punches and
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see how everything turns out. Yep. I think
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we both would agree. If if these are
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our biggest problems in life, we’re pretty damn
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lucky, aren’t we?
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We’re doing okay. Yeah. We’re doing just fine.
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So let me give a little backstory here.
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So another thing I wanna talk about, Kevin,
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is, I found in my research to be
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awesome, is and I know you guys talked
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about this on, on the subpar podcast with
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Colton Oss and the sleaze, and those guys
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are hilarious. They’re awesome.
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Colts coming on soon. I told you, and
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I’ve already had the sleaze. So they’re good
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guys. But,
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people talk about it, and it it’s your
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perseverance. You know, you you almost made it
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on the tour a couple times You know,
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I watched that chip numerous times. It was,
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you know, an inch from going in and
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and did not go in, which would’ve got
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your PGA tour card, thirty one years old.
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And now you earn it. Talk about that
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grind, man, and talk about that journey of
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what you’ve learned to get you to where
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you are now, getting right start on the
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PGA tour.
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Yeah. I just think I’ve surrounded myself with
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an incredibly
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close
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small circle
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of support.
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And
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they’ve kinda beaten it into me that,
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I mean, the ultimate goal is is not
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making the PJ tour. It’s not
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winning a PJ Tourpan. It’s not winning a
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major championship. I mean, it’s enjoying this journey
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and kind of learning
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as you go along the way, and I
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feel like I’ve done a job of that.
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And that’s definitely been something that’s kept me
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going,
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even in those
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really tough times, like, twenty eighteen when I
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finished
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twenty six, and the next year I had
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a pretty good chance. And
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just made a debacle of the last hole
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and
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just having a very positive
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set of parents, a positive wife, my brother,
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all my coaches, and then that small circle
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of friends that I mean I pretty much
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called my family.
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They’re all in it with me and that
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just kinda
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keeps the train going. Yeah. So I heard
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on a podcast you were on. It might
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have been the subpar when,
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I think you sat down with your dad.
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Right? And your dad You said, hey, I
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don’t know if I wanna do this anymore.
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And what what’d your dad tell you?
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Yeah. So it was that would’ve been a
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COVID year.
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And it was kinda like the wraparound season.
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So it was a long season.
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Nobody really knew
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what was gonna happen if we were just
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gonna stop playing again if COVID spiked up
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again or whatever. So I’m just kinda in
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a rut and
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I felt like I was
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working hard and I was traveling with two
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of my really good buddies that had kids.
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I didn’t have a daughter at the time,
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and they were on the end of their
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careers. So they were talking about
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kinda wrapping it up, and I kinda fell
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into that a little bit. Like Yeah. Easy
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to do. Yeah. They seem to be just
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fine with it and
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So it was after an event, and I
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I believe I missed a cut in Utah
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and it was a quick flight back to
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my hometown in Marietta, California.
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Sat down my dad. He was, hey, you
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just you kinda seem a little off. Like,
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what’s going on? And I told him, like,
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I just don’t know
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if I wanna do this anymore, I mean,
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I vividly remember him saying, like,
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right now, you don’t have
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a child. You have
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a very supportive set of parents, a very
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supportive set of in laws,
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an unbelievable life.
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And
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if you can kinda get the same back
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on track, like, you can provide for your
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family
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in more ways and just financially. I mean,
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my daughter’s been on my daughter’s been on
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forty flights probably. And she’s not even not
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even a year and a half old and
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different countries. And so and that kinda sparked
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something in me. Like, this is something that
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I really do wanna do. I’m just need
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to get away from just trying to take
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the easy way out and almost play victim
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a little bit. And, I mean, that was
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an amazing
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very intimate, like, conversation. I had, like, very
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touching.
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Yeah. Which I think is huge because it
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whether it’s your dad or just a a
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friend, a mentor. I mean, I think sometimes
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you need to hear. You got you got
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people in your corner, and thinking about your
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success and and and believing in your success.
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Right? And I always say as a leader,
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sometimes we have to believe in somebody’s success
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more than they believe in themselves, don’t you
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think?
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Oh, a hundred percent. And
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just going back to kinda small circle of
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support, and it kinda just dawned on me.
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But that same season,
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we’re kinda getting towards the end of the
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year, and
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it was kinda in that same time frame
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where I had had that conversation with my
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dad. My coach is out with me and
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He’s like,
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no matter what you end up doing, like,
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we’re always gonna be
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close. I mean, this relationship we
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golf is
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business, but then outside of that, it’s friendship.
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And because all I want you to do
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is just kinda give it your Gilliland
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just make sure you get to the finish
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line before you make up your mind.
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And that was just like
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another one of those sparks. And, I mean,
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just kind of conversations like that got me
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through one of the, like, my down years
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and my career. And,
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I mean, I look back at them now
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and I’m like holy cows or,
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I mean, pivotal
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kind of turn, like, times or whatever you
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wanna call it in in my career.
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So very, very grateful for those
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conversations and
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So talk about the preparation. I think, again,
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let’s let’s take the golf course back to
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the board room here for work, for leaders,
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and, people listening to this, is
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your preparation.
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What what’s that light for you on off
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weeks Obviously, now you’re getting ready to go.
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You probably start what in Hawaii in January
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here in the next month.
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Yeah. And so what’s that preparation like in
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the next thirty days. Obviously, Brett the holidays
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in there. But what what’s that like for
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you?
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Yeah. So it’s been amazing.
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Just kinda have some downtime and focus on
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kind of the way we wanna go and
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structure this off season.
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The way my personality is is I’m kind
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of a leave, like, don’t leave any stone
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unturned.
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I mean, it goes from
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literally when I wake up in the morning
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to every meal that I put in my
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body to my workouts,
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to the ways I structure my practice. I
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mean, pretty much speaking just golf,
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I mean, I have
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fundamental practice,
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skill development practice, and then games. And I
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try to just separate them
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like, one third, one third, one third.
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I mean, so there’s a bunch. And what’s
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that like? So nothing to Brett, but so
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that day, so is that like an eight
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hour day? Is that twelve hours? Five for
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it? What is that?
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I mean, I’d say a normal day. I’d
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get up at 6AM,
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and
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Brett much from six to 06:30, I do
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all of my mindfulness stuff. I know we
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talked about it a little bit and it’s
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just pretty much a way like you were
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talking about those thoughts that come into your
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mind and some
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get bigger.
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It’s just a way to
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get rid of disruptive thoughts and just don’t
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give them any credit because technically they don’t
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really mean anything.
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So I do that and then I spend
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the morning with my daughter and my wife,
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and we always do coffee and an unbelievable
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Brett, and
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by that time, she’s about ready to go
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down for a nap, and I’m out of
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the golf course at about 10AM. And
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depending on who’s out there or
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if it’s just myself,
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kind of structures.
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What I’m gonna do for that day, I
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mean, I have kind of my non negotiables
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that I have to get done. Every day
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with golf swing, short game,
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putting,
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stuff like that. And then if there’s guys
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there, we’ll go play a game and then
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come
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Brett much pretty much
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You’re basically living every guy like me’s dream.
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Right, is you do you get permission every
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day to go practice your golf game and
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go play a game of golf with your
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buddies, but really it’s work. And there’s no
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air quotes in that. That legitimately is work
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and how you’re providing for your family.
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Yeah. It definitely is. And now I’ll get
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home around
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four, 04:30, and
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I have a gym here at the house
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and
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normally my wife works out with me at
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the same time. It’s when my daughter’s down
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for a second nap, and Yep.
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Gilliland,
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I mean, I’m
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I’m pretty much asleep on the couch every
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night at 08:15.
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Dang.
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Brett at nine. I’m asleep by nine. If
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it’s either on the couch, then I have
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to roll over into the bed or
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I’m in bed pretty early.
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Yeah. And another thing I heard too is,
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which I loved and I thought this was
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really an abundant thinking, which is important. Right?
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For anything, but is,
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what you do on the road Kevin for
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your eating. I mean, how important that is
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for you and kinda get detail with that
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if you want. But I think And they
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ask you, like, you know, that’s not cheap.
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Right? And it’s not like,
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you know, in in golf, which is what
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I love about and kinda don’t like about
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it is there’s no there’s not they’re not
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signing you an eighteen million dollar a year
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contract and hoping you hit, you know, you
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know, one eighty for the St. Louis cardinals.
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You gotta go out and earn Right? But
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you are investing your dollars,
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extra dollars into your food prep. So talk
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about that.
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Yeah. So the nutrition part
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kind of dawned on me. It would be
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my Brett shirt freshman year of college.
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And Oklahoma State, by the way.
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Yep. I got injured in college. I fractured
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my l five,
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and I was out for the spring semester,
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and I’m like, this sucks. And that’s when
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I got bitness and nutrition.
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And
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I pretty much told myself that I’m never
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under my control, I’m never gonna get hurt
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again. If it’s a
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small stabilizing
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injury that I could have avoided. Like, that’s
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not gonna happen in my book.
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And so I was just taking the deepest
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dive into it and found an amazing guy
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that I work with down in encinitas, California.
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His name is Robert Yang, very holistic.
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He has a very
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straightforward
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type of way of eating.
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And just to kind of give you a
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quick preview on that, I mean,
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pretty much is
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outline or overview of how he’d like you
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to eat is the easiest way to maintain
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blood sugar
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and it’s protein fat and fiber. So
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protein is coming from animal. He’s massive into
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high quality
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organically stores
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grass fed cows or pasture raised poultry stuff
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like that just because the amino in it.
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You can’t
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get the amino acids on
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a plant based diet versus this animal based.
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And I mean, I felt I felt amazing.
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And
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when I literally wake up
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on the dot, I have the most energy
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throughout the entire day,
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and
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I just had to find a way to
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have that same thing on the road.
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So we just started
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renting houses every week, and I just cook
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every meal just because I can control
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every single thing that goes into it. I
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mean, if you go to a restaurant, they
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would actually show you what was in
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whatever, in a steak and vegetables. I mean,
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there’s gonna be terrible oils they use with
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it. It’s probably gonna be some sort of
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corn syrup or sugar on a sauce that
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they put on. I mean, so I’m just
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taking out all those factors and I just
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feel amazing.
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Yeah. I mean, what a commitment. What so
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what do you do when you go to?
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I mean, obviously you gotta go to events
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and, you know, your sponsors, and you go
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to nice dinners and all those things. So,
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I mean, what do you do if you’re
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at a nice high end steakhouse?
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How do you order food?
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Yeah. I just go pretty much as plain
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as possible.
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I mean, I’ll just get
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a very
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basic steak. I mean, say if we’re going
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to a steak house, it would be just
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a very basic steak, no sauce or anything
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like that. And Just get sweet vegetables. And
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normally, sometimes they’ll have a big sweet potato
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or just white rice or just something kinda
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easy like that and just keep it very
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simple. I mean Okay. Like, I I don’t
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eat any dairy, gluten,
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refined, like, I don’t eat any refined sugar.
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I’ll eat Brett. But no added sugars or
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anything like that. And,
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fortunately, I think I got this gene where
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I don’t like the taste of any sort
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of alcohol.
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So I may have tried literally great bottles
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of wine, and
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high end tequila. It all just tastes like
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gasoline to me. It’s like, oh, it’s burns.
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Yeah.
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So no no bourbon for you. Yeah. No.
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For me. I mean, I just put in
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all of it completely. So That’s awesome. That’s
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awesome. Good for you.
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Talk about the, you know, growing up, I
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think it’s important.
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You you can’t you you and Ricky Fowler
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have a relationship. Right? Both from the same
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hometown.
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Oklahoma State University.
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Talk about that. And I know, you know,
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you probably kinda right behind you here. You
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can see what you can see this blue
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back around here. That’s Jackie Joiner, Kersey, one
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of the greatest females,
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athletes ever. And she’s from, you know, six
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miles up the road. And I know a
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lot of people that have come out of
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that town And they said, they were they
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saw somebody do it. Right? They saw Jackie
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Joiner, Kersey. And so what about Ricky Fowler
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for you?
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We came from a little bit of,
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small town golf mecca because even outside of
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Ricky,
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Champions tour player and PJ Tour winner Tom
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Pernice Junior. No. He was there. Yeah.
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They moved to California because Brooke, his youngest
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daughter,
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was blind, and there’s a really good acupuncturist
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in Southern California. So Tom moved from
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Kansas City up to Marietta. So when I
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was
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When I was growing up, I saw
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Tom when he was directly in the prime
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of his career on the PJ tour.
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And then I also saw Ricky when he
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was
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eighth grade, ninth grade, tenth grade when he
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was shooting these low sixty scores in these
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junior tournaments
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Gilliland amateur tournaments and everyone is just like
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like
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the next coming with Jesus. This dude. Yeah.
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And just we struck up a friendship and
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practice together every day and
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we play with Tom. So, I mean, that
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was pretty much we had one other, which
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were probably my brother, some of the other
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good juniors at the club. I mean, we
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had a competitive day,
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every single day we were together with
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a current PJ tour player,
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and then Ricky’s obviously well on his way
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to becoming a golf hall of famer.
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Yeah. And able to learn from people who
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are better than you.
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I think is
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massive, and that was the main that was
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the main reason why I picked Oklahoma State
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was
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I was gonna be a small fish
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in an extremely large pond.
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And I was there with Kevin Twain, Morgan
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Hoffman, Peter Ulyne,
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Taylor Gooch, Wyndham Clark,
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and we had to qualify every week. So
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I’m trying to figure out ways
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to beat these first team all Americans and
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if now
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US Open champion and live player of the
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year. And, I mean,
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so just kind of picking choosing from kinda
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each player and kinda molding your own and
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trying to figure out how to win is
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extremely valuable, I think, in my opinion.
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Well, I put you on the spot earlier,
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so I can’t do it, twice. But, man,
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imagine if you had to pick Wyndham Clark,
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winning the US Open
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or Taylor Guch winning, you know, Catrillion dollars
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in the live tour of the year. Right?
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That’s
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a that’s a hell of a year for
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two of your buddies.
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Yep. And then, I mean, obviously, Victor, with
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the,
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yeah,
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up and
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pretty cool. We walked into we had a
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tournament up at Oaktree National, little pro scratch
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in Edmund, Oklahoma about three weeks ago, and
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you walk into the pro shop and You
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got the FedEx cut trophy on one side.
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You got to live
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golf trophy on the other side because Victor
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and Taylor both play out at Oaktree National.
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So it was
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were they there?
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Victor was. Yeah. Taylor went out I’ll be
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there. Yeah. Yeah. Victor had a hell of
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a year, man. That’s awesome. So talk about,
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you know, walking in that locker room, man.
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So you’re you’re going in basically a month
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from now, you’re gonna walk in and and,
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you know, it’s pretty cool as the guy’s
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following golf, Tiger playing today and teeing it
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I think I I looked. He was plus
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three through seventeen when we’re right before we
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started recording. So he’s right there. He’s five
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or six back, I think, or seven back.
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But cool. See him back out there. But
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But walk through and I know you played
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in p g a two or events, so
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maybe it’ll be different for you now. But
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as a p g a two or pro,
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walking into there, into that locker room, man.
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What’s that gonna be like for you and,
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and how do you keep your game face
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on?
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Yeah.
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I mean, it’s almost since the season’s been
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over, it’s almost been a sense of relief
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just because
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I mean, this journey’s been so long and
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you never know if you’re ever if you’re
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ever gonna get there. I mean, you can
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do all the right stuff and
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It just sometimes it’s just not in the
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cards. And so I think kinda getting over
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the hump
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of
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getting that to her card has been a
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massive sensor relief and I’m gonna go in
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there and I’m gonna enjoy every
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single
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week and every tournament. And
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I’m just I’m really trying to
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tell myself and remind myself to enjoy it
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because I know it’s gonna the year is
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gonna go fast.
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I mean, nothing’s guaranteed. I mean,
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I could play one year. I could play
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twenty five years. Yeah. So I’m just gonna
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try to be as present as
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possible.
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I know that good golf is gonna take
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care of itself,
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and I don’t need to try and change
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my game to
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fit the PJ tour and try to
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be someone else’s game or anything like that.
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And I might genuinely know if I go
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and I play good golf, then gonna plan
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on that tour for a very, very long
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time. Love it. Because you gotta be in
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the, what, top 01:50 to keep the card?
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Top 01:25.
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That 01:25. Okay. Yeah. 01:26
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to 01:50
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is still pretty much like a full card.
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Okay.
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I’ll just get to play. Do you get
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to play in all the tournaments this year
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other than, like, say, the masters, things you
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gotta qualify for, but do you get to
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play in most of the tournaments?
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Most of them. And then they have they
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have including the four majors. They have those
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signature events that they’re calling.
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Where they’ve kinda created their own it’s like
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sixty or seventy man fields.
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No cut kind of deal. You can play
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your way into those throughout the season. Okay.
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And then obviously you can qualify for
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US Open Brett Gilliland
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stuff like that. So, I mean, I’ll probably
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if I had to guess
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low twenties and mid twenties of full season.
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Yeah. Awesome. So, I know these guys will
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be listening to this. So we’re gonna have
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a little fun, and we’re gonna talk about
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what the amateur golfer can do. So I
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I these are two brothers, Mikey and Timmy
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Rai.
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And, you know, I’m gonna just I’m gonna
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take a lot of their money this summer
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coming up here in two thousand twenty four.
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So what do I need to do as
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a guy? Listen to this right now or
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gal? Listen to this. It’s Gulf or what
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I need to do this season to be
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ready for Gilliland then, how do I get
00:22:54.000 –> 00:22:56.000
better throughout the year?
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So
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to be ready, I mean, you need to
00:23:02.000 –> 00:23:04.000
have a small list of just your daily
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fundamentals Gilliland those should not change.
00:23:08.000 –> 00:23:10.000
They shouldn’t change over the entire year.
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Because
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to stay working on them and
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one percent each day, you’ll just kinda get
00:23:17.000 –> 00:23:20.000
better, better, better. And then within a year,
00:23:20.000 –> 00:23:21.000
then you can kinda reevaluate.
00:23:22.000 –> 00:23:24.000
Yep. Next is And when those things, are
00:23:24.000 –> 00:23:26.000
you talking about, like, working on chipping, working
00:23:26.000 –> 00:23:27.000
on putting, or is this more of, exercise
00:23:28.000 –> 00:23:29.000
type of stuff. Because, obviously, it’s cold here.
00:23:29.000 –> 00:23:31.000
We can’t play that much golf.
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Yeah. I mean, you know,
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do some indoor stuff.
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Regarding golf.
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If there’s, like, a pattern you wanna change,
00:23:38.000 –> 00:23:40.000
if you’re too steep, too shallow,
00:23:41.000 –> 00:23:44.000
just kinda work on those. And then
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you gotta figure out because that’s only one
00:23:46.000 –> 00:23:48.000
third of the whole puzzle.
00:23:49.000 –> 00:23:51.000
I mean, the other one, you gotta know
00:23:51.000 –> 00:23:53.000
how to hit shots. So I mean,
00:23:54.000 –> 00:23:55.000
that’s why you’ll see
00:23:56.000 –> 00:23:58.000
some guys with terrible golf swings,
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beat guys with perfect golf swings, just because
00:24:01.000 –> 00:24:02.000
they know how to play the game of
00:24:02.000 –> 00:24:03.000
golf better.
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And, I mean, that’s just as important as
00:24:07.000 –> 00:24:10.000
having the perfect wrist angle or whatever the
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this fat is on
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social media. I mean, if you can sit
00:24:15.000 –> 00:24:16.000
up there and hit a draw against a
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left to right wing to a left pin
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and then the next hole hit a fade
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to a right pin with a right crosswind.
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That’s gonna pay dividends compared to
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video your swing and trying to have it
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look
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So how do you do that Kevin, like,
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right? So let’s say, I mean, to the
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to the ten handicap guy or the fifteen
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handicap guy that probably can’t do that,
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How do you recommend that? We just, obviously,
00:24:38.000 –> 00:24:40.000
gotta learn it, gotta watch videos, gotta get
00:24:40.000 –> 00:24:42.000
with somebody, learn it, and then just edit
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copy, edit paste five thousand times.
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Yeah. You just kinda gotta
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experiment a little bit. I mean, when you
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do have that time to go to the
00:24:49.000 –> 00:24:51.000
range, I mean, try to make it fun.
00:24:51.000 –> 00:24:52.000
I mean, don’t
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don’t hit seven iron twenty five times at
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the same
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at the same flag on the range. I
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mean, hit a cut six to it and
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then grab your eight and try to hook
00:25:02.000 –> 00:25:03.000
the eight out. I don’t care if it
00:25:03.000 –> 00:25:03.000
hooks
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fifty yards, but just try to figure out
00:25:06.000 –> 00:25:07.000
how to play golf and then go to
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a different flag. And, I mean, I would
00:25:10.000 –> 00:25:10.000
challenge
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anyone to
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not hit the same club twice to the
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same target
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during a practice session. And I bet I
00:25:18.000 –> 00:25:19.000
bet their golf would get so much better.
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I love that. That’s awesome. Then what do
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you got? What advice you got for me?
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It’d be a better putter.
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Better putter. Well,
00:25:28.000 –> 00:25:30.000
do you have bad speed?
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Or is it more No. I’m I’m good
00:25:32.000 –> 00:25:34.000
lagging wise. It’s just, you know, that eight
00:25:34.000 –> 00:25:36.000
foot putt, that that ten foot putt, I
00:25:36.000 –> 00:25:38.000
miss, you know, probably. Well, I problem is
00:25:38.000 –> 00:25:40.000
I probably think I may I should make
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every one of them. In reality, I’d probably
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make about thirty percent of them. Right? But
00:25:43.000 –> 00:25:45.000
I but it seems like that’s my game.
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And I’m solid from t to green, and
00:25:47.000 –> 00:25:48.000
then I, you know, I can’t hit Brad
00:25:48.000 –> 00:25:49.000
said I have a bar and when it
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I just I don’t read putts very well.
00:25:51.000 –> 00:25:52.000
Yeah. So,
00:25:52.000 –> 00:25:54.000
I mean, I have a daily,
00:25:55.000 –> 00:25:58.000
daily putting, green reading drill that I think
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is incredible, and it’s very simple. So all
00:26:01.000 –> 00:26:02.000
you need is two dimes
00:26:03.000 –> 00:26:05.000
and pretty much as Sharpie. So
00:26:06.000 –> 00:26:08.000
same thing. Random. We’re only gonna hit one
00:26:08.000 –> 00:26:10.000
putt from the same spot and
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for example, say you’re ten feet on the
00:26:12.000 –> 00:26:13.000
putting green. Yeah.
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All down. Just put a little black dot
00:26:16.000 –> 00:26:18.000
behind the hole to mark your spot.
00:26:18.000 –> 00:26:20.000
Get behind it. However, you need to read
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it. However, you do it on the course.
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Do that. Put the black dot behind the
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ball or behind the hole?
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Behind the ball. Okay. Yep. Just so after
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you hit your putt, you don’t lose your
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spot.
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Got it.
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So then, however, you need to read the
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green, read it, and then
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about halfway between
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you and the hold. Take your two dimes
00:26:40.000 –> 00:26:43.000
about a putter head width apart. And
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wherever you think the ball needs to roll,
00:26:47.000 –> 00:26:48.000
just put it right there in the center
00:26:48.000 –> 00:26:51.000
with the two dimes on the side and
00:26:51.000 –> 00:26:53.000
go back to your black dot and then
00:26:53.000 –> 00:26:55.000
if you roll it through the dimes with
00:26:55.000 –> 00:26:56.000
good speed,
00:26:57.000 –> 00:26:59.000
it should go in with a good read.
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So you roll it through the dimes and
00:27:02.000 –> 00:27:03.000
it misses, then you know
00:27:04.000 –> 00:27:05.000
that it’s a bad read. So now you’re
00:27:05.000 –> 00:27:07.000
constantly working on green reading. So if you
00:27:07.000 –> 00:27:08.000
were to do that,
00:27:09.000 –> 00:27:11.000
nine holes a day, nine different putts uphill
00:27:11.000 –> 00:27:14.000
right to left, downhill left to right,
00:27:14.000 –> 00:27:17.000
all different distances. I mean, it’s impossible not
00:27:17.000 –> 00:27:18.000
to get better at Green Reading.
00:27:19.000 –> 00:27:21.000
Maybe I just edit edit this part out
00:27:21.000 –> 00:27:23.000
and don’t let Nike and Timmy and all
00:27:23.000 –> 00:27:25.000
my buddies hear this. Is that Yeah. No.
00:27:25.000 –> 00:27:26.000
We’ll let it go. We’ll let it go.
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I think that’d be good.
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I mean, I
00:27:30.000 –> 00:27:32.000
I understand too. I mean, it’s tough for
00:27:32.000 –> 00:27:35.000
it’s tough for guys that are getting out
00:27:35.000 –> 00:27:37.000
of the house once or twice a week
00:27:37.000 –> 00:27:38.000
and Yeah.
00:27:38.000 –> 00:27:39.000
Go up.
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I mean, you show up thirty five, forty
00:27:41.000 –> 00:27:42.000
minutes.
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Grab a drink, hit some balls,
00:27:44.000 –> 00:27:46.000
hit five putts, and then go. I mean,
00:27:47.000 –> 00:27:49.000
yes. And sometimes just grab a drink, don’t
00:27:49.000 –> 00:27:51.000
hit balls, hold the put the phone down,
00:27:51.000 –> 00:27:53.000
tee off, grab the phone and walk, and
00:27:53.000 –> 00:27:54.000
you meet your buddies on the first screen.
00:27:54.000 –> 00:27:56.000
Yeah. You’re finishing a call or something. But,
00:27:56.000 –> 00:27:59.000
that’s awesome. Talk about I mean, you guys
00:27:59.000 –> 00:28:00.000
got one of my old buddies. One of
00:28:00.000 –> 00:28:02.000
my old college buddies is at your country
00:28:02.000 –> 00:28:03.000
club. Tony Romo.
00:28:03.000 –> 00:28:05.000
Little did I know that Tony Romo was
00:28:05.000 –> 00:28:08.000
gonna be the, you know, Dallas Cowboys quarter
00:28:08.000 –> 00:28:09.000
back and, you know, make, you know, hundreds
00:28:09.000 –> 00:28:11.000
of millions of dollars on CBS as a
00:28:11.000 –> 00:28:12.000
sportscaster,
00:28:12.000 –> 00:28:15.000
but played a lot of basketball with Tony
00:28:15.000 –> 00:28:17.000
in college. And, he probably could have been
00:28:17.000 –> 00:28:18.000
on our golf team.
00:28:18.000 –> 00:28:20.000
But he was not. And, because he was
00:28:20.000 –> 00:28:22.000
too busy playing football. So you got Tony
00:28:22.000 –> 00:28:24.000
Romo, Will’s Altorris, and the guys. That’s who
00:28:24.000 –> 00:28:26.000
you’re playing golf with and having games with.
00:28:26.000 –> 00:28:27.000
Right? Right.
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Yeah. I mean, fortunately, Meredith has an unbelievable
00:28:32.000 –> 00:28:33.000
membership. I mean,
00:28:34.000 –> 00:28:37.000
everyone from kinda all the big sports around
00:28:37.000 –> 00:28:39.000
Dallas is a member there.
00:28:39.000 –> 00:28:39.000
Pavelelski
00:28:40.000 –> 00:28:41.000
player,
00:28:43.000 –> 00:28:43.000
We got Ian Kinsler who played in the
00:28:43.000 –> 00:28:44.000
Mlb promo and there’s twenty pros Martin
00:28:49.000 –> 00:28:50.000
Flores
00:28:51.000 –> 00:28:53.000
Sabashia Munja as Taylor Moore, PJ Tour winner.
00:28:53.000 –> 00:28:55.000
Davis Riley winner.
00:28:57.000 –> 00:28:59.000
And we’re all pretty much on the same
00:28:59.000 –> 00:29:02.000
schedule. So it’s very, very easy to get
00:29:02.000 –> 00:29:03.000
a game, and
00:29:03.000 –> 00:29:05.000
that’s kind of the easiest way
00:29:06.000 –> 00:29:08.000
to recreate tournament fields
00:29:08.000 –> 00:29:11.000
when you’re playing Realmo with infinite money
00:29:12.000 –> 00:29:13.000
again. Exactly.
00:29:14.000 –> 00:29:16.000
And wanting strokes too. He’s wanting to pop
00:29:16.000 –> 00:29:18.000
on how many holes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No.
00:29:18.000 –> 00:29:18.000
He definitely
00:29:19.000 –> 00:29:21.000
he definitely tries to win the bet on
00:29:21.000 –> 00:29:22.000
the first tee.
00:29:23.000 –> 00:29:25.000
I’m not good at negotiator. Are you? So
00:29:25.000 –> 00:29:27.000
I mean, if you and Will’s Al Torres
00:29:27.000 –> 00:29:28.000
are going out, this is another one I
00:29:28.000 –> 00:29:30.000
joke with some of my buddies about in
00:29:30.000 –> 00:29:32.000
this guy, Pete, we always joke. And I’m
00:29:32.000 –> 00:29:33.000
like, you know, if Tiger and Rory are
00:29:33.000 –> 00:29:35.000
going out playing golf. You really think they’re
00:29:35.000 –> 00:29:37.000
negotiating on the first tee who’s getting pops?
00:29:37.000 –> 00:29:39.000
I’m like, no. They go play Gilliland
00:29:39.000 –> 00:29:42.000
Brett man wins. Stop asking for stroke. You
00:29:42.000 –> 00:29:44.000
know? And so I assume that’s the way
00:29:44.000 –> 00:29:45.000
it is. Am I correct in saying that
00:29:45.000 –> 00:29:47.000
you and Will Zelle Torres don’t talk about
00:29:48.000 –> 00:29:49.000
pops in the first tee box?
00:29:50.000 –> 00:29:52.000
No. Absolutely not. Like,
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no. I wouldn’t ask. Thank you, Kevin.
00:29:56.000 –> 00:29:58.000
I wouldn’t ask Tiger. I wouldn’t ask whoever
00:29:58.000 –> 00:30:00.000
never Scott, I mean, Scott is out there
00:30:00.000 –> 00:30:01.000
a lot. Like, No. You
00:30:02.000 –> 00:30:04.000
when you’re in this professional golf
00:30:05.000 –> 00:30:07.000
era Or amateur golf, and you just wanna
00:30:07.000 –> 00:30:08.000
take it to your buddies. If you’re a
00:30:08.000 –> 00:30:10.000
three handicap, and I’m a one handicap, I
00:30:10.000 –> 00:30:12.000
should to give you two pops.
00:30:12.000 –> 00:30:13.000
I agree. Yeah.
00:30:15.000 –> 00:30:16.000
Thank you. From
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I would say from mini tours to
00:30:21.000 –> 00:30:24.000
Brett much if you’re playing every single major,
00:30:24.000 –> 00:30:26.000
every single year, you never ask for pops.
00:30:27.000 –> 00:30:28.000
Some guy that just came you’re signing up
00:30:28.000 –> 00:30:29.000
for professional golf.
00:30:30.000 –> 00:30:32.000
Like, if you’re asking for pops, like, you’re
00:30:32.000 –> 00:30:33.000
probably
00:30:34.000 –> 00:30:35.000
in the wrong industry.
00:30:37.000 –> 00:30:39.000
You gotta have you gotta have the faith
00:30:39.000 –> 00:30:40.000
that you can go out and you can
00:30:40.000 –> 00:30:42.000
just drum these guys. Yeah. I love that.
00:30:42.000 –> 00:30:44.000
It’s kinda like when I was in my,
00:30:44.000 –> 00:30:45.000
I think, mid twenties, and I was looking
00:30:45.000 –> 00:30:47.000
for a new car. I thought I was
00:30:47.000 –> 00:30:49.000
a successful hotshot. And I asked the car
00:30:49.000 –> 00:30:51.000
dealer guy. I said, what’s what’s the miles
00:30:51.000 –> 00:30:53.000
per gallon for this on gas on this
00:30:53.000 –> 00:30:55.000
escalator? The guy goes, I don’t know. He
00:30:55.000 –> 00:30:57.000
goes, the people that buy them don’t ask
00:30:57.000 –> 00:30:58.000
that. And I go,
00:30:58.000 –> 00:31:00.000
great idea. I’m out. See you later. Thanks
00:31:00.000 –> 00:31:03.000
for your help. You know? Don’t need pops.
00:31:03.000 –> 00:31:03.000
So
00:31:04.000 –> 00:31:06.000
Last few stuff, we’re gonna talk about, but
00:31:06.000 –> 00:31:08.000
a cool story, man, and I think about
00:31:08.000 –> 00:31:10.000
putting yourself in the right spot, Justin Timberlake,
00:31:12.000 –> 00:31:13.000
tell us that story. You talked about that
00:31:13.000 –> 00:31:16.000
last time when we recorded. And, tell me
00:31:16.000 –> 00:31:16.000
that story.
00:31:17.000 –> 00:31:20.000
Yeah. So just golf being such a small
00:31:20.000 –> 00:31:20.000
world.
00:31:21.000 –> 00:31:22.000
Grayson
00:31:22.000 –> 00:31:24.000
is one of my sponsorships
00:31:25.000 –> 00:31:26.000
for clothing and Great stuff, by the way.
00:31:28.000 –> 00:31:29.000
Unbelievable. Gilliland
00:31:29.000 –> 00:31:32.000
close with Morgan Hoffman and who started grayson
00:31:33.000 –> 00:31:35.000
after leaving Gilliland
00:31:35.000 –> 00:31:37.000
we just kinda went on a boys trip
00:31:37.000 –> 00:31:40.000
up to New York Morgan has his own
00:31:40.000 –> 00:31:41.000
single engine
00:31:41.000 –> 00:31:42.000
piper
00:31:42.000 –> 00:31:44.000
Mirage, so we kind of flew around the
00:31:44.000 –> 00:31:48.000
country and play all some, like, great golf
00:31:48.000 –> 00:31:50.000
spots and everything like that. And we stopped
00:31:50.000 –> 00:31:53.000
up in New York where Charlie Schaffer
00:31:53.000 –> 00:31:56.000
who’s also another big name in Grayson, designer
00:31:57.000 –> 00:31:59.000
from r l x that went to Grayson.
00:32:00.000 –> 00:32:02.000
So we’re gonna play golf with him and
00:32:02.000 –> 00:32:04.000
he kinda had the relationship with Justin,
00:32:05.000 –> 00:32:07.000
and we’re gonna play Liberty National.
00:32:08.000 –> 00:32:09.000
So we show up the next day. I
00:32:09.000 –> 00:32:11.000
mean, I’m just thinking it’s me Morgan and
00:32:11.000 –> 00:32:11.000
Charlie.
00:32:12.000 –> 00:32:15.000
And show up. And, yeah, the fourth was
00:32:15.000 –> 00:32:16.000
Justin Timberlake. Holy shit. Yeah.
00:32:17.000 –> 00:32:17.000
So
00:32:21.000 –> 00:32:23.000
were playing Gilliland
00:32:23.000 –> 00:32:24.000
he was amazing. He was a complete boy’s
00:32:24.000 –> 00:32:24.000
boy, having
00:32:25.000 –> 00:32:26.000
fun,
00:32:30.000 –> 00:32:32.000
shooting the shit, just kinda doing
00:32:33.000 –> 00:32:33.000
everything
00:32:35.000 –> 00:32:37.000
that you and your buddies would do. Yeah.
00:32:38.000 –> 00:32:39.000
That’s kind of the round was coming to
00:32:39.000 –> 00:32:41.000
an end. He was just saying, Hey, like,
00:32:41.000 –> 00:32:43.000
y’all everyone had come to a concert.
00:32:43.000 –> 00:32:44.000
Let me know.
00:32:45.000 –> 00:32:45.000
And
00:32:46.000 –> 00:32:48.000
to, like, gave us his phone number. I’m
00:32:48.000 –> 00:32:49.000
like, wow.
00:32:50.000 –> 00:32:52.000
Thinking, yeah, it’s probably his manager’s phone number
00:32:52.000 –> 00:32:53.000
or
00:32:53.000 –> 00:32:55.000
the person who deals with tickets or whatever.
00:32:55.000 –> 00:32:56.000
So
00:32:57.000 –> 00:32:59.000
probably three or four months go by.
00:33:00.000 –> 00:33:02.000
And I see that he’s playing
00:33:02.000 –> 00:33:04.000
right here in my backyard in Dallas.
00:33:05.000 –> 00:33:06.000
So my god, I’ll give it a shot.
00:33:07.000 –> 00:33:09.000
Text him. Hey, dude. I see that you’re
00:33:09.000 –> 00:33:11.000
playing in Dallas. Never been to a concert
00:33:12.000 –> 00:33:13.000
I’d love to come.
00:33:13.000 –> 00:33:14.000
I mean, within a minute,
00:33:15.000 –> 00:33:16.000
he responds.
00:33:16.000 –> 00:33:17.000
Hey, dude. Absolutely.
00:33:19.000 –> 00:33:21.000
We’ll get you set up, friends and family
00:33:21.000 –> 00:33:23.000
passes, all this. Damn.
00:33:24.000 –> 00:33:25.000
So that was amazing.
00:33:26.000 –> 00:33:29.000
And had an awesome time. Got to see
00:33:29.000 –> 00:33:30.000
him after the show.
00:33:30.000 –> 00:33:33.000
His wife was there. Gilliland my wife got
00:33:33.000 –> 00:33:36.000
to me, talked. And it’s just Amazing. Like,
00:33:36.000 –> 00:33:36.000
just completely
00:33:37.000 –> 00:33:38.000
normal
00:33:38.000 –> 00:33:40.000
down to earth couldn’t be better.
00:33:41.000 –> 00:33:43.000
Fast forward maybe three or four months. We
00:33:43.000 –> 00:33:46.000
had, some off time our corn ferry schedule,
00:33:46.000 –> 00:33:48.000
and I was out in Scottsdale,
00:33:48.000 –> 00:33:51.000
and kinda his tour was going right through
00:33:51.000 –> 00:33:53.000
there. And I’m like, I had a couple
00:33:53.000 –> 00:33:55.000
buddies with me as, hey, you guys wanna
00:33:55.000 –> 00:33:56.000
go to a concert? They said, yeah.
00:33:57.000 –> 00:33:57.000
So
00:33:57.000 –> 00:34:00.000
same thing. Like, hadn’t talked to him since
00:34:00.000 –> 00:34:02.000
maybe the day after he played here in
00:34:02.000 –> 00:34:04.000
Dallas just saying thanks for whatever. And,
00:34:04.000 –> 00:34:05.000
hey, I’m in Scottsdale.
00:34:06.000 –> 00:34:08.000
See that you’re playing. I’m here for
00:34:09.000 –> 00:34:11.000
cut like a week or so. Like, let’s
00:34:11.000 –> 00:34:13.000
get to you. Bam.
00:34:13.000 –> 00:34:13.000
Immediately.
00:34:14.000 –> 00:34:16.000
Got you stirring
00:34:17.000 –> 00:34:18.000
It was during,
00:34:19.000 –> 00:34:21.000
spring training. So that everyone was there.
00:34:22.000 –> 00:34:23.000
And, I mean, I’m
00:34:23.000 –> 00:34:26.000
sitting there watching JT perform next to Mike
00:34:26.000 –> 00:34:27.000
trout and Kershon.
00:34:29.000 –> 00:34:31.000
Yeah. I’m just like, what is going on?
00:34:31.000 –> 00:34:33.000
Like, I’m just keeping my cool act like
00:34:33.000 –> 00:34:33.000
this is normal.
00:34:34.000 –> 00:34:34.000
Yeah.
00:34:35.000 –> 00:34:38.000
So kinda same thing after, like, as the
00:34:38.000 –> 00:34:40.000
show starts to wind down, like, they kinda
00:34:40.000 –> 00:34:41.000
filter us just kinda into,
00:34:42.000 –> 00:34:44.000
like, a big, like, room
00:34:44.000 –> 00:34:47.000
kind of where he hangs out after and
00:34:48.000 –> 00:34:50.000
that’s when Aaron Rogers was there in Dayton
00:34:50.000 –> 00:34:52.000
Danick Apache at the time and John
00:34:54.000 –> 00:34:54.000
Malanger
00:34:55.000 –> 00:34:56.000
you know, I kinda go way back just
00:34:56.000 –> 00:34:59.000
because he played it for Jenny Country Club
00:34:59.000 –> 00:35:01.000
in Long Beach, and my grandfather lived there.
00:35:01.000 –> 00:35:04.000
So Matt has sparked up a little conversation
00:35:04.000 –> 00:35:05.000
with Aaron. Just say, hey, I think we
00:35:05.000 –> 00:35:08.000
have a mutual friend, John Malinger goes, oh,
00:35:08.000 –> 00:35:10.000
yeah, because they used to play a pro
00:35:10.000 –> 00:35:11.000
am together and
00:35:11.000 –> 00:35:13.000
So me and JT were just planning on
00:35:13.000 –> 00:35:16.000
playing golf the next day at Scottsdale National.
00:35:17.000 –> 00:35:18.000
Because I was with PXG at the time.
00:35:18.000 –> 00:35:19.000
That’s where he was staying.
00:35:20.000 –> 00:35:22.000
And he just invited Aaron.
00:35:23.000 –> 00:35:23.000
And
00:35:23.000 –> 00:35:24.000
so
00:35:24.000 –> 00:35:26.000
show up the next day and on the
00:35:26.000 –> 00:35:28.000
first tee, it’s myself.
00:35:29.000 –> 00:35:29.000
Justin,
00:35:29.000 –> 00:35:32.000
Aaron, and Justin’s manager.
00:35:32.000 –> 00:35:34.000
And I’m just, like, I’m just hanging out
00:35:34.000 –> 00:35:36.000
with who’s who and
00:35:36.000 –> 00:35:37.000
the best part.
00:35:38.000 –> 00:35:40.000
That I’ve been around
00:35:41.000 –> 00:35:44.000
guys of that stature that absolutely suck. And,
00:35:44.000 –> 00:35:45.000
like, I
00:35:45.000 –> 00:35:48.000
I’m like, whatever. Like, you’re not worth my
00:35:48.000 –> 00:35:49.000
time. And
00:35:49.000 –> 00:35:50.000
that can be,
00:35:51.000 –> 00:35:51.000
like,
00:35:52.000 –> 00:35:54.000
more truthful when I say Aaron and JT
00:35:54.000 –> 00:35:56.000
are just so down to earth
00:35:56.000 –> 00:36:00.000
genuine and just kinda actually care about, like,
00:36:00.000 –> 00:36:03.000
the people that are around. So That’s awesome.
00:36:03.000 –> 00:36:05.000
Well, looks like Aaron Rogers may be coming
00:36:05.000 –> 00:36:06.000
back, man. How cool would that be? I
00:36:06.000 –> 00:36:07.000
mean, after tearing your Achilles?
00:36:08.000 –> 00:36:11.000
It’s impressive. I mean, it’s inspiring
00:36:11.000 –> 00:36:12.000
kinda It is.
00:36:13.000 –> 00:36:15.000
Work that he’s doing and
00:36:15.000 –> 00:36:17.000
the power of the mind. And,
00:36:18.000 –> 00:36:20.000
I mean, it’s it’s wild. I hope I
00:36:20.000 –> 00:36:23.000
hope that he can come back and, I
00:36:23.000 –> 00:36:26.000
mean, somehow, have the Cinderella story and turn
00:36:27.000 –> 00:36:29.000
turn those jets around and Just something to
00:36:29.000 –> 00:36:30.000
be amazing.
00:36:30.000 –> 00:36:32.000
So last last topic here is you you
00:36:32.000 –> 00:36:33.000
said to power the mind and I was
00:36:33.000 –> 00:36:36.000
actually going to mindset. So, again, whether I’m
00:36:36.000 –> 00:36:38.000
on the golf course and I’m frustrated and
00:36:38.000 –> 00:36:40.000
and I’m work, I’m frustrated or a home
00:36:40.000 –> 00:36:41.000
you can be frustrated.
00:36:42.000 –> 00:36:43.000
What what are some of the the kind
00:36:43.000 –> 00:36:46.000
of the practices you do to stay mentally
00:36:46.000 –> 00:36:49.000
strong? Cause mental performance is Kevin no matter
00:36:49.000 –> 00:36:50.000
what area of life. Right? So so what
00:36:50.000 –> 00:36:52.000
do you do to stay mentally strong and
00:36:52.000 –> 00:36:55.000
maybe not get too high, too low, no
00:36:55.000 –> 00:36:56.000
matter what moment you’re in?
00:36:57.000 –> 00:37:00.000
Yeah. So one thing that I’ve learned from
00:37:00.000 –> 00:37:02.000
my mental coach is
00:37:03.000 –> 00:37:05.000
figuring out how to stay present. And
00:37:07.000 –> 00:37:09.000
I know it sounds pretty cliche, but
00:37:10.000 –> 00:37:11.000
when things start to
00:37:12.000 –> 00:37:14.000
speed up or go sideways, and
00:37:15.000 –> 00:37:17.000
our minds start racing or everything like that.
00:37:17.000 –> 00:37:17.000
So
00:37:18.000 –> 00:37:19.000
becoming mindful
00:37:20.000 –> 00:37:20.000
of
00:37:21.000 –> 00:37:23.000
those times, and then I literally asked myself
00:37:24.000 –> 00:37:26.000
Like, how do I know I’m breathing?
00:37:26.000 –> 00:37:28.000
Because if I know that I’m breathing, like,
00:37:28.000 –> 00:37:30.000
if I focus on, like, for me, like,
00:37:30.000 –> 00:37:32.000
I feel like the air going in my
00:37:32.000 –> 00:37:32.000
nostrils,
00:37:33.000 –> 00:37:34.000
and then I’ll,
00:37:34.000 –> 00:37:36.000
like, I am so dialed into
00:37:38.000 –> 00:37:39.000
this present moment.
00:37:40.000 –> 00:37:42.000
That everything else kinda
00:37:42.000 –> 00:37:44.000
the waves start to get smaller and smaller
00:37:44.000 –> 00:37:45.000
from, like, the outside of what I’m kinda
00:37:45.000 –> 00:37:46.000
going
00:37:48.000 –> 00:37:48.000
through.
00:37:48.000 –> 00:37:50.000
So if it’s from frustration
00:37:50.000 –> 00:37:52.000
or if I’m in contention,
00:37:52.000 –> 00:37:55.000
and I’ll do it multiple times around. I
00:37:55.000 –> 00:37:57.000
mean, multiple times a hole if I need
00:37:57.000 –> 00:37:59.000
to just walk into a shot, breathing, focusing.
00:38:00.000 –> 00:38:02.000
Yeah. Exactly. I mean, just stuff that you
00:38:02.000 –> 00:38:03.000
can control.
00:38:05.000 –> 00:38:07.000
So I’d say that would be one of
00:38:07.000 –> 00:38:08.000
them. And then
00:38:08.000 –> 00:38:09.000
just daily
00:38:09.000 –> 00:38:10.000
mindfulness practices.
00:38:11.000 –> 00:38:13.000
So, like, this morning, I wake up
00:38:14.000 –> 00:38:17.000
and I pretty much set my alarm for
00:38:17.000 –> 00:38:19.000
anywhere between five to seven minutes
00:38:19.000 –> 00:38:21.000
and close my eyes.
00:38:21.000 –> 00:38:24.000
And I literally try to see every thought
00:38:24.000 –> 00:38:24.000
that comes into my mind. And I don’t
00:38:24.000 –> 00:38:25.000
act upon it
00:38:30.000 –> 00:38:30.000
or
00:38:30.000 –> 00:38:33.000
judge it or anything like that just pretty
00:38:33.000 –> 00:38:35.000
much like waves in the ocean because that
00:38:35.000 –> 00:38:37.000
thought comes in and then it goes out
00:38:37.000 –> 00:38:39.000
and just not giving
00:38:39.000 –> 00:38:41.000
any And that’s starting to rub, but that’s,
00:38:41.000 –> 00:38:44.000
oh, my shoulder hurts. It’s okay. Don’t say
00:38:44.000 –> 00:38:46.000
anything. It’s, I gotta do this thing today.
00:38:46.000 –> 00:38:48.000
I gotta run this, Aaron. Gotta practice this
00:38:48.000 –> 00:38:50.000
way. I gotta this meeting later.
00:38:51.000 –> 00:38:52.000
Don’t think.
00:38:53.000 –> 00:38:55.000
Don’t judge. Brett it go. Yep.
00:38:56.000 –> 00:38:58.000
Yep. It just kinda gets you
00:38:59.000 –> 00:39:01.000
kinda gets you in like the being mode
00:39:01.000 –> 00:39:03.000
of mind rather than always trying to do
00:39:03.000 –> 00:39:04.000
something
00:39:05.000 –> 00:39:07.000
and trying to control this and trying to
00:39:07.000 –> 00:39:08.000
control that.
00:39:08.000 –> 00:39:11.000
Like, because if you tried control too much,
00:39:11.000 –> 00:39:11.000
then
00:39:12.000 –> 00:39:12.000
Yeah.
00:39:13.000 –> 00:39:14.000
Then you feel like
00:39:14.000 –> 00:39:17.000
you, like, are almost out of control. Like,
00:39:17.000 –> 00:39:17.000
this
00:39:17.000 –> 00:39:19.000
first time something falls off a shelf. I
00:39:19.000 –> 00:39:22.000
mean, you’re triggered. Or, so there’s definitely a
00:39:22.000 –> 00:39:23.000
balance between
00:39:24.000 –> 00:39:26.000
what you can’t control and what you cannot
00:39:26.000 –> 00:39:27.000
control. Yep.
00:39:27.000 –> 00:39:29.000
Yep. Solid. Solid being in the moment, man.
00:39:29.000 –> 00:39:31.000
It’s also I find myself
00:39:31.000 –> 00:39:33.000
you go out maybe you birdie one and
00:39:33.000 –> 00:39:35.000
three, and you’re like, alright, man. Two hundred.
00:39:35.000 –> 00:39:36.000
Man, if I do that. And it’s like
00:39:36.000 –> 00:39:38.000
you already start thinking about that, you know,
00:39:38.000 –> 00:39:40.000
for us guys, if I’m a go out
00:39:40.000 –> 00:39:41.000
and have a chance to shoot sixty eight.
00:39:41.000 –> 00:39:43.000
You know, I’m like, holy crap. You know,
00:39:43.000 –> 00:39:45.000
but then I’m like, I gotta stay present.
00:39:45.000 –> 00:39:47.000
The next swing matters. Don’t worry about where
00:39:47.000 –> 00:39:48.000
I’m at at the end of the round.
00:39:48.000 –> 00:39:49.000
And I try to do that. But as
00:39:49.000 –> 00:39:51.000
soon as and I’m getting better at it,
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but as soon as my mind starts going
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there, and it’s like, oh, crap. There’s a
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double bogey.
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You know, it just takes all focus away.
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It’s crazy. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that’s why
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literally learning how to be incredibly present is
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so powerful because
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I mean, what you did two holes ago
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is
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completely irrelevant to this shot.
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And then
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if you’re worrying about screwing it up, like
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you’ve
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already casted this
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pretty much this future that you think you
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should be in.
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Yeah. You know, rather than just staying present
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and just dealing and living with the outcome.
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Yep.
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I I keep saying last question, but I’m
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just curious if you got like you. I
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I just picked up a sixty degree wedge
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this past year. I’ve never done that. My
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whole career of playing golf. But what what
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wedges do you use?
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I use Voci.
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Okay. That’s what I use. Yeah. Voci. Sixty,
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fifty six,
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fifty two.
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And a fun little story actually about Voci
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is
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So Aaron Dill is the head
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pretty much Bob Vokey’s right hand man on
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tour.
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Okay.
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Take it back, I don’t know, twenty years.
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Kevin Dale was working at a local golf
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shop in my hometown, and he was my
00:41:14.000 –> 00:41:15.000
first
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golf coach.
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No way.
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Yeah. Now he’s building what I he’s building
00:41:20.000 –> 00:41:23.000
wedges for all these major champions and
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buddies of mine that obviously are out winning
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and stuff like that. And if Aaron gets
00:41:27.000 –> 00:41:28.000
brought up, my buddy, he’s my first golf
00:41:28.000 –> 00:41:31.000
coach and guys are just what, blown away.
00:41:31.000 –> 00:41:31.000
So
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golf such as, like, crazy, small. It’s small
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world.
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It’s my, thirteen year old’s pump, man, mom
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and dad got him a fifty two, a
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fifty six, and a sixty Vokey for Christmas
00:41:42.000 –> 00:41:44.000
this year. And he just, like, cannot wait
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to get those bad boys. So, man, I
00:41:47.000 –> 00:41:49.000
can keep talking, gawking all day long.
00:41:50.000 –> 00:41:51.000
But, man, you are gonna be, you’re gonna
00:41:51.000 –> 00:41:53.000
have a big fan. We’re gonna be watching
00:41:53.000 –> 00:41:54.000
you, man. We’re gonna be rooting you on,
00:41:54.000 –> 00:41:56.000
and, maybe I’ll come out and see you
00:41:56.000 –> 00:41:58.000
this on tour. But, hang with me while
00:41:58.000 –> 00:41:59.000
I turn this off, but thanks so much
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for being on the circumstance.
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Yeah. Thanks again. Glad we could do it.