

98. Trump, Epstein, and The List That Won’t Die
105 snips Jul 17, 2025
Delve into the intriguing connections between Trump's MAGA supporters and the Epstein Files. Discover why conspiracy theories thrive within the movement and how Trump's political decline shapes factional dynamics. Explore the complicated relationship between Trump and Putin amid escalating tensions in Ukraine. The hosts navigate the murky waters of political narrative manipulation, wealth protection, and the implications for upcoming elections as they unpack the historical parallels of current global conflicts.
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Epstein List Divides MAGA Movement
- The Epstein list controversy reveals MAGA's belief in powerful people protecting elites and fueling conspiracy theories.
- This division shows a schism in MAGA, challenging Donald Trump's control over his base.
Trump's Control of MAGA Tested
- Trump's order to dismiss the Epstein list has sparked open revolt among his MAGA followers, especially Marjorie Taylor Greene.
- Despite backlash, the story will likely fade as Trump shifts focus to other issues closer to elections.
Elites Protect Elites, Fuel Distrust
- Powerful people protect each other by creating legislation favoring elites, fueling populist resentment.
- Attempts to keep Epstein files secret deepen MAGA's distrust of the establishment and the 'deep state'.