A blurring of lines between nation states and criminals.

Guest Joshua Neil, the Chief Data Scientist for SecurOnix, joins Dave to talk about evasive techniques and identifying nation-state kill chains, Joe shares an update on his identity theft experience, the guys share some follow up from listener Benji who shares experiences of scammers changing the name on gmail accounts at the synagogue where he works saying they are the rabbi and emailing congregants asking for gift cards, Dave's story is about Apple's AirTags and how they led to the discovery of a German intelligence agency, Joe's got a story about the City of Baltimore falling victim to a phishing scam, and our Catch of the Day is from listener G about a compressed file attachment he received, but did not open.

Links to stories:

• Apple's AirTag uncovers a secret German intelligence agency
• Inspector General: Baltimore victimized in 376,213 phishing scam last year

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