Ryan Foland speaks with Jeff Butler, a speaker, author and workplace strategist who helps organizations create workplaces where employees thrive. In this episode of our podcast series, Ryan and Jeff talk about how to approach your craft to find patterns and see what works and what doesn't in formulating your speaker algorithm. One of the key messages in this interview is how to get booked when there are more speakers than there are engagements. Tune in for an interview full of ideas and tips on having conversations with event planners who have the budget to be able to afford you.