The Bible Lore Podcast Episode 7: Hell of a King (feat. Chris Wade)
Chris Wade, co-host and producer of "Chapo Trap House" and "And Introducing," joins to unravel King David's ascent from soldier to monarch. They explore the clash of history and legend surrounding David, including his rivalry with Saul and the complexities of his relationships. Insightful discussions touch on the evolution of Hebrew narratives, the political dynamics of ancient Israel, and how modern interpretations shape our understanding of biblical texts. Wade also shares personal reflections on religion and the significance of preserving historical narratives.
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Israelite Origins
- The Israelites and Judahites likely emerged from Canaanite society.
- Their gods, worship, temples, and material culture were similar.
Twelve Tribes?
- The "12 tribes of Israel" concept is fluid, with different texts listing varying numbers and combinations.
- The number 12 may not reflect a historical reality.
Conflicting Lists
- Judges 5 lists ten tribes, omitting Simeon and Judah, while Deuteronomy 33 lists a different ten and omits Simeon, Judah, and Reuben.
- These omissions suggest a fluid and evolving concept of "Israel".
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Intro
00:00 • 4min
Exploring Faith and History
03:34 • 5min
The Evolution of Hebrew Narratives
08:25 • 22min
David's Rise and Rivalry
30:07 • 29min
Understanding Historical Contexts and Divine Representations in Biblical Texts
59:19 • 3min
Navigating Biblical Complexities
01:01:52 • 18min
Exploring 1 Samuel: Historical and Literary Insights
01:19:40 • 10min
The Importance of Preserving History and Musician Biographies
01:29:23 • 2min
Literary Explorations and Podcast Ventures
01:31:06 • 2min
A History of the Bible
John Barton
John Barton's "A History of the Bible" provides a comprehensive overview of the development of the Bible from its origins in ancient Israel to its influence on Western culture.
The book traces the evolution of the biblical texts, examining the historical, cultural, and literary contexts that shaped their formation.
Barton explores the various interpretations and uses of the Bible throughout history, highlighting its impact on religious thought and practice.
He also addresses the challenges and complexities of studying the Bible as a historical and literary document.
The book is a valuable resource for anyone interested in understanding the Bible's rich and complex history.
Israel's history and the history of Israel
Mario Liverani
Mario Liverani's "Israel's History and the History of Israel" offers a comprehensive and critical analysis of the historical development of ancient Israel.
Liverani challenges traditional narratives, integrating archaeological and textual evidence to present a nuanced picture of the region's past.
He examines the political, social, and religious dynamics of ancient Israel, placing it within the broader context of the ancient Near East.
The book's interdisciplinary approach provides a fresh perspective on the formation and evolution of Israelite society.
Liverani's work is highly regarded for its rigorous scholarship and its contribution to our understanding of ancient Israel.
God in Translation
God in Translation
Mark S. Smith
Mark S. Smith's "God in Translation" explores the challenges and complexities of translating religious texts, particularly the Hebrew Bible.
Smith examines the ways in which translation choices can shape our understanding of religious beliefs and practices.
He analyzes the cultural and historical contexts that inform both the original texts and their translations.
The book highlights the inherent ambiguities and interpretive possibilities within religious language.
Smith's work is a valuable contribution to the field of translation studies and biblical scholarship, offering a critical perspective on the process of interpreting ancient texts.
History of Ancient Israel
History of Ancient Israel
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Christian Frevel
Underworld
The Mysterious Origins of Civilization
Graham Hancock
In this book, Graham Hancock embarks on a worldwide exploration to find the underwater ruins of a mythical lost civilization hidden for thousands of years beneath the world’s oceans.
Guided by cutting-edge science, innovative computer-mapping techniques, and the latest archaeological scholarship, Hancock examines the mystery at the end of the last Ice Age and delivers astonishing revelations.
The book includes exhilarating accounts of his dives in various parts of the world, discovering submerged kingdoms that archaeologists never thought existed, and presents a new explanation for the origins of civilization as we know it.
The Historical David: The Real Life of an Invented Hero
The Historical David: The Real Life of an Invented Hero
The Real Life of an Invented Hero
Joel Baden
Joel Baden's "The Historical David" delves into the complexities of the biblical figure of King David, separating historical fact from legendary embellishments.
The book challenges traditional interpretations of David's reign, examining the sources and their biases.
Baden explores the political and religious landscape of ancient Israel, questioning the extent to which the biblical narrative reflects reality.
He analyzes the literary construction of David's story, highlighting the layers of tradition and redaction that have shaped the text.
The book offers a critical and nuanced perspective on one of the most iconic figures in the Bible.
Infinite jest
wit and humor in Italian Renaissance art
Paul Barolsky
In this book, Paul Barolsky examines the role of wit and humor in Italian Renaissance art, providing insights into the artistic and cultural context of the period.
The work delves into how artists of the Renaissance used humor and wit in their creations, reflecting the broader cultural and social attitudes of the time.
Gravity's Rainbow
Thomas Pynchon
Published in 1973, 'Gravity's Rainbow' is a sprawling narrative that delves into the secret development and deployment of the V-2 rocket by the Nazis.
The story follows a diverse cast of characters, including Lieut.
Tyrone Slothrop, an American working for Allied Intelligence in London, who becomes embroiled in a mysterious connection between his erections and the targeting of incoming V-2 rockets.
The novel is characterized by its complex and diverse prose, incorporating elements of history, philosophy, psychology, and science fiction.
It explores themes of paranoia, the impact of technology, and the blurring of lines between reality and fiction.
The novel won the National Book Award for fiction in 1974 and is widely regarded as a literary masterpiece.
God: An Anatomy
No author name available.
Hebrew Bible
Also known as Tanakh, Hebrew Scriptures, or Old Testament
Various Authors
The Hebrew Bible, also known as the Tanakh, is a canonical collection of Hebrew scriptures divided into three main sections: the Torah (or Pentateuch), the Nevi'im (Prophets), and the Ketuvim (Writings).
It contains 24 books and was written primarily in Hebrew, with some passages in Aramaic.
The texts narrate the history and traditions of the Jewish people, including the creation of the world, the genealogy and history of the Israelites, and their relationship with God. The Hebrew Bible is central to both Judaism and Christianity, providing the foundational texts for these religions.
Inherent Vice
Inherent Vice
Thomas Pynchon
This time I bring Chapo Trap House's Chris Wade along as we dive into the story of David's ascension to king in both history and legend.
Check out Chris and Molly's other podcasts here:
https://soundcloud.com/and-intro-pod
https://soundcloud.com/infinite-cast
Bibliography:
Christian Frevel - ‘History of Ancient Israel’;
Mario Liverani - ‘Israel’s History and the History of Israel’;
Joel Baden - ‘The Historical David’;
Robert Alter - ‘The Hebrew Bible: A Translation with Commentary’;
Emanuel Pfoh - ‘The Emergence of Israel in Ancient Palestine’;
Andrew Tobolowsky - ‘The Sons of Jacob and the Sons of Herakles’;
Andrew Tobolowsky - ‘The Myth of the Twelve Tribes of Israel’;
Kyle McCarter - ‘I Samuel’;
Kyle McCarter - ‘II Samuel’;
Susan Ackerman - ‘When Heroes Love’;
Jennifer Knust - ‘Unprotected Texts’;
Sara Diamond - ’Spiritual Warfare’;
Other Bible quotations taken from the NRSVue and the NJPS with adaptations;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wtBBVnyX3A
https://www.thetorah.com/article/dating-deborah
https://rbecs.org/2014/01/31/thd/