The Bulwark Podcast Dean Phillips and Mikie Sherrill: The Right Call
Aug 15, 2024
Congress members Dean Phillips and Mikie Sherrill stress the urgent need for change in the Democratic Party, reflecting on voter demands for new leadership. They explore the party's disconnect with working-class values and the importance of engaging rural voters. Amid political challenges, they highlight the necessity of accountability and addressing economic issues. The conversation also touches on the significance of platforms for dissenting voices in a democracy, while emphasizing the relevance of integrity and effective governance.
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Phillips' Newsom Encounter
- Dean Phillips recounts a conversation with Gavin Newsom.
- He told Newsom he "should have fucking run" for president, capturing a shared sentiment.
Phillips' Reflection on Biden
- Phillips believes he was right about Biden's electability.
- He regrets not pushing harder for change sooner and wishes Biden had debated in the primaries.
Importance of Dissent
- Phillips emphasizes the importance of internal dissent within institutions.
- He expresses disappointment in the Democratic Party's culture of self-preservation and suppression of dissenting voices.