You're Not Your Inner Voice: Meditation, Spirituality, and Mental Clarity for Founders

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00:00 – Jesse introduces the topic: spirituality for entrepreneurs
01:00 – What does spirituality actually mean (and why should you care)?
04:00 – You're not your thoughts: the voice in your head isn’t you
06:00 – The meditation misconception: you don’t have to quiet your mind
08:00 – Science vs. spirituality: where they’re already merging
10:00 – What meditation really trains: non-reactivity
13:00 – Why most inner voices are harsh critics—and how to shift them
16:00 – Who am I if I’m not my mind or body?
20:00 – The trap of chasing money, goals, and identity
23:00 – Above-the-line vs. below-the-line living (for leaders)
25:00 – Real-life example: Andrew pulls back during a tough meeting
28:00 – The sacred pause: how meditation builds better relationships
31:00 – How to treat thoughts like toddler tantrums or noisy strangers
32:00 – Meditation and resilience: the founder’s secret weapon
34:00 – How to meditate: Dave’s simple starter method
36:00 – Best meditation apps and routines Jesse recommends
38:00 – Mysticism vs. myth: experiencing truth directly, not through dogma
41:00 – Unconditional love vs. conditional thinking
44:00 – Why pressure isn’t the only path to success
46:00 – Final reflections on choice, peace, and self-awareness

What You’ll Learn:

This episode challenges how you think about yourself, your goals, and that nonstop inner dialogue most founders have. Andrew Warner, Jesse Pujji, and Dave Kashen explore the deep but practical benefits of meditation, spiritual awareness, and non-reactivity—without fluff or woo.

You’ll learn:

What it really means to be spiritual (hint: not religious)

Why your inner voice isn’t you—and how to create space from it

How meditation improves decision-making, resilience, and leadership

Why chasing money or goals might be masking deeper needs

Practical ways to begin meditating (even if you hate sitting still)

What “above-the-line” behavior looks like—and how to get there more often

In this episode of the Bootstrapped Giants podcast, we go beyond business strategy into founder mindset, self-awareness, and spiritual growth. Jesse Pujji and Dave Kashen join Andrew Warner to explore how meditation can unlock higher performance by reducing reactivity and increasing presence.

This is not just “woo”—we get tactical about how to meditate, why it works even if you’re not spiritual, and how it directly impacts your entrepreneurial leadership, mental clarity, and relationships. If you're looking for more resilience, focus, or just a break from the pressure of building a company, this conversation will offer practical tools and deep insights.

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