

JVL and Jon Lovett on the Autocracy Problem
Aug 21, 2025
Jon Lovett, co-founder of Crooked Media and former speechwriter for President Obama, joins JVL to dissect pressing political issues. They delve into the current power struggles in Texas, highlighting its impact on governance. The conversation pivots to the alarming rise of autocracy, questioning whether Trump is the sole catalyst or part of a larger societal crisis. They also address voter apathy and the challenges Democrats face in mobilizing support, emphasizing the importance of engaging marginalized voices in the political dialogue.
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Federal Guard Deployment Reveals Authoritarian Playbook
- Jon Lovett argues Democratic governors activating National Guard to counter federal deployments is unrealistic but clarifying.
- He says Trump's moves are trial-run authoritarian tactics that exploit democratic restraint.
Democratic Restraint Becomes Vulnerability
- JVL explains democracies instinctively avoid escalation, which authoritarians exploit.
- He highlights officials' reluctance to confront federal overreach because it seems far-fetched.
Eagle Pass Standoff And The Court Response
- Jon Lovett recalls the Eagle Pass confrontation where state forces blocked federal access.
- He notes the Biden administration took the dispute to court rather than using force.