9/5/24 James Carden on the Afghanistan Withdrawal and Kamala Harris’ Foreign Policy
Sep 10, 2024
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James Carden, a seasoned writer and former U.S. State Department adviser, dives into the fallout of the Afghanistan withdrawal. He critiques Obama's initial missteps and highlights Trump's ignored instincts. The discussion shifts to Biden's role in the chaotic retreat. Carden also examines Kamala Harris as a rising figure in foreign policy, critiquing the establishment's support for her and the implications for future U.S. engagements. They tackle the dualities of political endorsements and the ongoing complexities shaping American foreign strategy.
Obama's foreign policy initially aimed for withdrawal from Afghanistan but ultimately succumbed to military pressures, increasing troop levels instead.
Kamala Harris's alignment with the foreign policy establishment raises concerns about continuity in approaches to U.S. involvement overseas.
Deep dives
The Misguided Afghan Withdrawal
The discussion emphasizes President Obama’s initial intentions to end the Afghanistan War upon taking office, but he ultimately succumbed to pressure from hawkish advisors, resulting in an increase in troop levels rather than a withdrawal. After a ten-month policy review, Obama agreed to send additional troops to Afghanistan, contradicting promises made during his campaign. This relationship between the civilian leadership and military advisors highlights a significant concern regarding the erosion of civilian control over military decisions. The narrative illustrates how subsequent administrations, including those of Trump and Biden, faced similar obstacles when attempting to shift U.S. foreign policy towards withdrawal from Afghanistan.
Continuity and Incompetence in U.S. Policies
The conversation transitions into the actions taken by Donald Trump during his presidency, particularly his attempts to withdraw from Afghanistan amidst resistance from his own administration. Despite initially ordering troops out, Trump’s directives were often ignored by military leaders and advisors who sought escalations instead. This pattern of internal pushback reflects a troubling trend in U.S. foreign policy where the elected leaders struggle to implement their vision due to entrenched military bureaucracies. As a result, the withdrawal timeline became muddled, leading ultimately to another tragic situation for soldiers and civilians alike.
The Ramifications of U.S. Foreign Policy
The podcast highlights the inherent dangers posed by U.S. foreign policy choices, particularly regarding Israel and its involvement in the Middle East. The unconditional support for Israel by American administrations has created widespread resentment and subsequently contributed to increased risks for American citizens worldwide. This connection suggests that U.S. actions in the region foster blowback, jeopardizing not only U.S. forces abroad but also the safety of citizens at home. The ongoing hostilities, combined with a perceived lack of accountability, complicate relations and further entrench adversarial sentiments towards the U.S.
The Future of U.S. Leadership
The discussion shifts to current political figures, including Vice President Kamala Harris and her ties to the longstanding foreign policy establishment, raising concerns about potential continuity in policy regardless of party affiliation. The backing she receives from figures traditionally associated with hawkish foreign policy suggests a reluctance to change the underlying strategies that have led to previous conflicts. Moreover, the implications of her leadership, particularly concerning national security advisors, could mean a perpetuation of existing problems rather than a new direction. This reality signals a critical point for the country's foreign policy, with the need to assess whether current leaders can break away from historical patterns of conflict-driven decisions.
Scott interviews James Carden about two articles he wrote recently. The first looks back at the war in Afghanistan. He and Scott talk about how Obama immediately went the wrong direction with the war, how Trump had some good instincts but was ignored by his subordinates and why the disastrous withdrawal really was Biden’s fault. They then talk about all the neoconservatives and neoliberals who make up the foreign policy establishment rallying behind their new candidate — Kamala Harris.
James Carden is a columnist and senior advisor to the American Committee for US-Russia Accord (ACURA) and a former adviser on Russia policy at the US State Department. His articles and essays have appeared in a wide variety of publications including The Nation, The American Conservative, Responsible Statecraft, The Spectator, UnHerd, The National Interest, Quartz, The Los Angeles Times, and American Affairs.