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Curiosity As Your Travel Guide + Exploring Overlooked Destinations with John McKenzie

Jan 27, 2026
John McKenzie, a long-time traveler who curates curiosity-driven trips and contributes to National Geographic, discusses travel led by wonder. He talks about treating curiosity like a muscle. He explores overlooked and misunderstood places, why reputation and reality differ, and how community and flexible planning enable meaningful, daring journeys.
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INSIGHT

Curiosity Is A Trainable Muscle

  • Curiosity functions like a muscle that can be trained and expanded over time.
  • John McKenzie frames travel as a conduit to exercise and share curiosity in everyday life.
ADVICE

Plan Loosely To Invite Serendipity

  • Plan loosely so you can be open to serendipity and spontaneous discoveries.
  • Avoid rigid schedules that prevent you from detouring to unexpected local experiences.
ANECDOTE

Choosing Somaliland And Mogadishu

  • John traveled to Somaliland and Mogadishu despite reputations of danger after doing research and connecting with extreme-travel communities.
  • He accepted measurable risk and found the experience manageable and informative.
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