In Episode #35  host John Sherman talks with Jeremie and Eduard Harris, CEO and CTO of Gladstone AI. Gladstone AI is the private company working most closely with the US government on assessing AI risk. The Gladstone Report, published in February, was the first public acknowledgment of AI risk reality by the US government in any way. These are two very important people doing incredibly important work. The full interview lasts more than 2 hours and will be broken into two shows.

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TIMESTAMPS:

Sincerity and Sam Altman (00:00:00) Discussion on the perceived sincerity of Sam Altman and his actions, including insights into his character and motivations.

Introduction to Gladstone AI (00:01:14) Introduction to Gladstone AI, its involvement with the US government on AI risk, and the purpose of the podcast episode.

Doom Debates on YouTube (00:02:17) Promotion of the "Doom Debates" YouTube channel and its content, featuring discussions on AI doom and various perspectives on the topic.

YC Experience and Sincerity in Startups (00:08:13) Insight into the Y Combinator (YC) experience and the emphasis on sincerity in startups, with personal experiences and observations shared.

OpenAI and Sincerity (00:11:51) Exploration of sincerity in relation to OpenAI, including evaluations of the company's mission, actions, and the challenges it faces in the AI landscape.

The scaling story (00:21:33) Discussion of the scaling story related to AI capabilities and the impact of increasing data, processing power, and training models.

The call about GPT-3 (00:22:29) Edward Harris receiving a call about the scaling story and the significance of GPT-3's capabilities, leading to a decision to focus on AI development.

Transition from Y Combinator (00:24:42) Jeremy and Edward Harris leaving their previous company and transitioning from Y Combinator to focus on AI development.

Security concerns and exfiltration (00:31:35) Discussion about the security vulnerabilities and potential exfiltration of AI models from top labs, highlighting the inadequacy of security measures.

Government intervention and security (00:38:18) Exploration of the potential for government involvement in providing security assets to protect AI technology from exfiltration and the need for a pause in development until labs are secure.

Resource reallocation for safety and security (00:40:03) Discussion about the need to reallocate resources for safety, security, and alignment technology to ensure the responsible development of AI.

OpenAI's computational resource allocation (00:42:10) Concerns about OpenAI's failure to allocate computational resources for safety and alignment efforts, as well as the departure of a safety-minded board member.

These are the timestamps and topics covered in the podcast episode transcription segment.

China's Strategic Moves (00:43:07) Discussion on potential aggressive actions by China to prevent a permanent disadvantage in AI technology.

China's Sincerity in AI Safety (00:44:29) Debate on the sincerity of China's commitment to AI safety and the influence of the CCP.

Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) (00:47:47) Explanation of TSMC's role in fabricating advanced semiconductor chips and its impact on the AI race.

US and China's Power Constraints (00:51:30) Comparison of the constraints faced by the US and China in terms of advanced chips and grid power.

Nuclear Power and Renewable Energy (00:52:23) Discussion on the power sources being pursued by China and the US to address their respective constraints.

Future Scenarios (00:56:20) Exploration of potential outcomes if China overtakes the US in AI technology.