Funding the Future Nationalism: good or bad?
Nov 6, 2025
The discussion delves into the dual nature of nationalism, exploring how it can be a force for empowerment or a source of exclusion. It highlights the difference between caring nationalism, which fosters empathy, and toxic nationalism, driven by fear. The podcast examines nationalism as a means of resistance for marginalized communities and the left's complicated relationship with it. Ultimately, it challenges listeners to consider the ethical implications of nationalism in shaping identities and creating connections.
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Nationalism Rooted In Care
- Richard Murphy argues nationalism can begin as care for language, culture, place and dignity.
- He frames this as belonging that empowers unheard communities and supports democracy.
Culture And Economic Justice
- Murphy links cultural identity with economic justice and local decision-making.
- He says progressive nationalism ties dignity directly to democratic agency.
When Nationalism Turns Toxic
- He warns nationalism can curdle into control, creating outsiders and shrinking democracy.
- Murphy contrasts fear-driven obedience with the politics of care as the antidote.