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The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

Follow the Loser

Sep 9, 2023
The host discusses the distinction between populism and conservatism, the brain-killing stupidity of our election, and the role of ideologues. He reflects on his earlier discussion with Tom Nichols and clarifies key points. The podcast also explores the importance of making clear distinctions, the disappointment with the Claremont Institute, and the power of persuasion in politics.
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Quick takeaways

  • Populism, when taken to extremes, can be detrimental to conservative principles and values.
  • Politicians and commentators who change their positions based on political expediency should be viewed skeptically, as their transformations may be driven by desperation rather than genuine conviction.

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The Role of Populism in Conservatism

The podcast episode discusses the difference between populism and conservatism. The speaker emphasizes that while a little bit of populism can be healthy for conservatism, taking populism to extremes can be detrimental to conservative principles and values. Populism, which prioritizes passion over reason, is seen as inherently anti-intellectual. The speaker points out that they have been advocating for this distinction for 20 years. They also mention that Mike Pence recently gave a speech highlighting the difference between populism and conservatism.

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