Service Design Show

How To Stay "Stubbornly Human" in an AI World / Inside Service Design / Ep. #07

Dec 11, 2025
Join Jeff Hoekwater, a fintech service design expert and former exhibition designer, alongside Emilie Moravec, an innovation partner at a faith-based nonprofit with a diverse background in social work and theatre. They explore the concept of 'Empathy Theater' in automated customer interactions, questioning when friendly tones become manipulative. Emilie shares insights on the future of education with VR, examining how to foster belonging in virtual spaces. Together, they champion the importance of retaining human connections in a tech-driven world.
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INSIGHT

Nonlinear Paths Fuel Service Design

  • Emily and Jeff came from non-linear careers into service design, showing the field attracts diverse paths.
  • That diversity breeds systems thinking and fresh perspectives valuable in-house.
ANECDOTE

From Museums To Fintech

  • Jeff described shifting from exhibition design to service design after seeing the value of user testing and workshops.
  • His wife suggested UX and that nudged him into agency work and later in-house fintech design.
ADVICE

Validate Live, Don’t Disappear After Launch

  • Keep a continuous presence on live projects to validate solutions after launch.
  • Continuously check live automations to see if they actually solved user needs.
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