In this episode of Turpentine VC, Erik is joined by Frank Rotman, the founding partner of QED investors, a fintech-focused VC firm. Frank provides a nuanced analysis of investing in fintech and neo banks, offers his view of the larger macro environment, and maintains the need for discipline and resilience in business. This episode was recorded with Frank in 2023 but remains just as relevant today.

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(01:46) The Evolution and future of Fintech

(11:00) Incumbents vs Startups - locating the advantage?

(13:50) Bullish or bearish on banking

(20:30) Impact of fintech on different regions in the world

(21:28) Sponsor: NetSuite | Brave

(30:01) Evolution of neobanks

(34:39) The Pitfalls of Abundant Capital

(36:18) The Importance of Discipline in Business

(36:21) The Return of Darwin: The Impact of Drying Capital

(46:00) The Impact of Excessive Valuations

(51:25) The Role of Crypto in the Financial World

(55:13) The Potential of NFTs and Crypto

(01:09:59) The Future of Fintech

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Ep. 058: Seattle, Washington. Steven Rinella answers listener questions with Matt Elliott from Benchmade Knife Company, Land Tawney from BHA, the pizza magnate Jimmy Doran, and Janis Putelis from the MeatEater crew.