Author and publisher Emily Gould chats with her good friend (and New Yorker staff writer) Naomi Fry about Gould's new novel of music and parenthood, Perfect Tunes. Their quarantined conversation includes the difficulties of mothering in a pandemic, the ubiquity of vomit in the novel, lots of one-liners, and even some impromptu musical numbers. (Recorded April 14, 2020)