In this joyful (and cheeky) conversation, Liz Ellis shares her journey from clumsy bookworm, to successful netball player, through to becoming one of the most respected names in Australian sport and media.

Liz and Luke talk openly about Liz's struggles with fertility and the importance of finding new ways to create more open conversation about miscarriage amongst our friends and families.

Liz also takes us through her experiences with failure in business, her highly competitive nature and why a trip around Australia with her young family was a non-negotiable!

Show notes:

Liz and Luke share a passion for junior sport and you'll hear them discussing a recent episode with Rodney Campbell from Learning Life Through Sport

You'll also hear Luke talking about Liz's powerful book If At First You Don't Conceive

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