In this episode, Nathan sits down with Paige Bailey, Lead Product Manager of Generative Models at Google Deepmind. In this conversation, they discuss what it's like to be a PM for an LLM as opposed to an app, defining ideal LLM behaviour, and reasoning - how do you distinguish real abilities vs pattern matching? If you're looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive

We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.

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(00:00) Episode Preview

(00:01:15) Introducing Paige Bailey

(00:04:21) Paige’s background at Google Brain and the Deepmind merger

(00:07:00) PM for a LLM vs being a PM for an app

(00:11:21) The development timeline and compute budget of PaLM-2

(00:14:30) Paige’s role in the PaLM 2 project

(00:15:30) Sponsors: Netsuite | Omneky

(00:17:26) Defining desired capabilities for PaLM-2

(00:19:17) The amount of work that went into elevating PaLM 2 from PaLM 1

(00:20:28) Has Google lost its ability to ship?

(00:24:240) Paige's "eureka" moment seeing GitHub Copilot capabilities

(00:27:47) Competing PaLM 2 with other models

(00:32:20) Grokking and the predictability of emergent capabilities

(00:37:30) Citizen scientists and the multilingual capabilities of PaLM 2

(00:39:29) Distinguishing real reasoning vs pattern matching

(00:45:51) Products using PaLM-2 that people should try

(00:50:35) Most exciting AI projects that you can try out

(00:52:29) Curriculum learning and successor to the transformer

LINKS:

PaLM 2

Duet AI for developers

Avenging Polayni’s Revenge

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