In this episode, we finish our talk with Susan Whitall, as we talk about how Tata Vega’s genre-less funk might have prevented her from being a star, but might have made her album sound timeless, and we talk about Teena Marie, who once threatened to kick Susan’s ass and who also never got the kind of credit she deserved. And in the final segment of this final episode, we head out to L.A. to talk with current Motown president Ethiopia Habtemariam about working with Erykah Badu and how giving artists like Erykah the space to create is the best thing a label can do. We also talk about how Ethiopia and her team are trying to keep the spirit of Motown alive in a modern world.