In this episode of the ARCHITECHT Show, Heptio co-founder and CTO Joe Beda discusses a litany of cloud-native topics, including his roles helping to create Kubernetes and Compute Engine while at Google. Aside from going in depth on those two projects, Beda also shares his thoughts on where the container space is headed; the role of serverless computing; the still-tricky art of doing open source right; and straddling the lines between developers, operators and executives when it comes to building, marketing and selling enterprise software.