The Bulwark Podcast Michael Weiss and Karine Jean-Pierre: Low Energy Trump
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Oct 21, 2025 Michael Weiss, a journalist focused on Russia and international security, joins Karine Jean-Pierre, former White House Press Secretary, to discuss the impact of Trump's foreign policy on Ukraine and Gaza. Weiss highlights Trump's diminished leverage and erratic behavior while trying to position himself as a peacemaker. Jean-Pierre reflects on her experience in the Biden administration, addressing representation issues for marginalized communities and the precarious state of party politics. Their candid conversation unveils deep insights on modern democracy and political dynamics.
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Trump's Tomahawk Tango Falls Short
- Trump dangled escalating military aid to Ukraine then retreated, creating false expectations in Europe and Kyiv.
- Michael Weiss argues this exposes Trump's limited leverage and inconsistent strategy on Russia.
Russia's 'Starting Point' Is Territorial Maximization
- Russia's diplomatic offers repeatedly demand territory as a starting point, not a fair compromise.
- Weiss emphasizes Ukraine rightly refuses ceding Donbass because it would enable further Russian advances.
Zelensky Said No; U.S. Pressure Hit Limits
- Zelensky publicly and privately resisted Trump's pressure to cede territory, revealing U.S. limits to coerce Ukraine.
- Weiss calls Trump a 'no energy' operator who can bully but lacks sustained leverage.
