“Give me GDP, or give me death.”

Gretchen Whitmer, the Governor of Michigan, discusses her state's challenges during the coronavirus pandemic. She emphasizes the urgent need for federal intervention and coherent messaging as COVID-19 cases rise. The conversation critiques the current administration's focus on economic reopening over public health. Whitmer highlights the psychological complexities of leadership during such crises and the importance of secure voting measures to maintain democracy. She also addresses the necessity of adequate resources and support for those impacted by the pandemic.