Fellow sarcastic, cynical and reality TV loving podcastress, Kate Casey, joins me in recapping the second episode of the shit show that is this season of the bachelorette, and also the cringiest episode of all freaking time. Kate has an inside scoop about Clare and what the producers thought of her. Kate also shares she had stupid Max on her podcast when he was dating Demi, and gives us the creepy (Andrew Cunanan vibes) lowdown on what he was like.
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