The Bulwark Podcast

Isaac Arnsdorf and Joe Perticone: Trying to Finish What They Started

Apr 11, 2024
Isaac Arnsdorf, author of 'Finish What We Started', and Joe Perticone discuss the rise of MAGA, activism in DC jails post Jan 6, House drama over Ukraine and FISA, and the dynamics of political movements. Delve into online activism, Congress dysfunction, Pfizer completion prediction, political ideologies, Ukraine-Russia conflict, and Trump's stance on Putin.
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ANECDOTE

DC Jail Vigil

  • Joe Perticone visited the DC jail to observe the nightly vigil for January 6th prisoners.
  • He witnessed supporters, including one who lives off donations and sells J6 merchandise, interacting with inmates via phone.
INSIGHT

Freedom Caucus Shift

  • The House Freedom Caucus, originally formed to promote open legislative processes, now uses procedural tactics to block votes.
  • This has led to unprecedented dysfunction, with the House failing to bring bills to a vote multiple times.
INSIGHT

FISA Opposition

  • The Freedom Caucus's opposition to the FISA reauthorization is rooted in the belief that it's used to target conservatives.
  • This contrasts with the law's purpose of preventing terrorism, with critics like Justin Amash raising concerns.
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