This week on the Penguin Podcast, Isy Suttie is joined by national treasure, poet and children’s author, Michael Rosen.

He speaks to Isy about his experiences before and after contracting Covid, how to create more impactful life writing, what he now knows about death, and his yearning to understand the meanings of naughty words in Yiddish.

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Michael Rosen with Isy Suttie