The Morning Meeting Trump Slams Jacob Frey for "Playing With Fire" for Refusing To Enforce Law: Is "Deescalation" Over?
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Jan 28, 2026 Hogan Gidley, former White House deputy press secretary and conservative commentator, and Kevin, a Democratic political strategist, spar over Minnesota, immigration enforcement and intraparty feuds. They debate Trump’s messaging, prospects for Noem, Fed chair picks, Iran risks, shutdown odds, and whether deescalation still matters. Quick takes, sharp banter, and political theater.
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Homan As A De-Escalation Fix
- Tom Homan's appointment is meant to de-escalate and bring pragmatic federal experience to Minnesota's crisis.
- Hogan Gidley believes Homan's institutional knowledge and bipartisan background give him a real chance to build cooperation on the ground.
Mixed Messages Undermine De-Escalation
- Public contradictions between federal envoys and local leaders risk undoing de-escalation efforts quickly.
- Kevin warns Mayor Jacob Frey's public refusal to enforce federal law undermines coordination and inflames tensions.
The Glitter Bomb That Changed How They Respond
- Hogan recounts a glitter-bomb incident to explain aggressive responses to thrown liquids.
- He argues unknown substances justify forceful detentions because they could be hazardous.