The Weird Way Americans Talk About Ukraine As War Looms

Ukraine. Things are changing rapidly, but at this moment the Kremlin has the country surrounded. It’s conducting military drills in the Black Sea, marshaling troops in neighboring Belarus, and recalling mercenaries from Africa. Recently Putin even made a rape joke during a press conference to imply what he wanted from Ukraine.

It doesn’t look good. But to hear Ben & Jerry's Ice cream tell it, this is all because of the imperial U.S.-led aggression in Eastern Europe. Why does it seem like some Americans, from right-wing pundits to your terminally online socialist friend, can’t seem to take the Kremlin’s threats seriously?

With us today to answer that question is Christopher Atwood. Atwood senior advisor at the Souspilnist Foundation in Kyiv. He’s lived in both Russia and Ukraine.

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